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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:53 pm 
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Can someone knowledgeable explain why RGS latest data has 0% in the Ebacc area which I presume is the reason their progress 8 score is so poor? Type of exam taken?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:27 pm 
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They took a different English GCSE [an iGCSE?] which meant students got 0 for English - you can drill down to that.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:22 pm 
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I've just looked at the league table and I'm confused. RGS shows as performing well below average in all stages. They have scored 0% of students doing GCSE's at Grade 5 and above, achieving EBacc and entering EBacc. Their scores in GCSE is also 0. Surely the league table should take into account the different GCSEs that they are doing?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:57 am 
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https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/662959/Performance_points_for_qualifications_counting_in_the_2017_key_stage_4_performance_tables.xlsx

The AQA and Cambridge International Level 1/Level 2 Certificate subjects which are included in the list of qualifications counted in the performance tables for 2017 are here. Maths and English are among those not on the list - explanation here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/qualifications-counting-in-future-performance-tables

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:07 am 
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Here is what it says on the school website:

http://www.rgshw.com/2925/academic/a-le ... sults-2017

"Please note that RGS students have sat IGCSE ( I meaning International) qualifications in English Language and English Literature. These are qualifications used predominantly by the independent sector as they have been regarded as more rigorous than the standard GCSE in universal use in the state sector.

As the qualification is no longer included in Progress 8 calculations, this has had a significantly negative effect on our Progress 8 score (calculated as -0.93 by the DfE) and our league table position for Progress 8. Please be reassured that IGCSE is recognised by all universities and, clearly, a school achieving the results and Oxbridge success detailed on this page is a high-performing school."


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:20 am 
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Thanks for the link Guest55.

Does anyone know why RGS would do this? Why they moved away from the standard GCSEs in favour of the iGCSEs? I don’t remember this being mentioned during my schools visits.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:36 am 
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Is this a permanent change or was it just caution because of the new GCSE?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:17 pm 
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I have some inside info. The school are apparently sending out to parents a 'league table' showing where RGS would sit if IGCSEs had been counted. Unreliability of GCSE English marking is one reason cited for the IGCSE switch a few years ago.

IGCSEs are recognised by universities -which they have to be as the IGCSE is very common in independent schools.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:33 pm 
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I think most parents will wonder why RGS made this decision when none of the other 12 GS did. How many of them are complaining about their English results?

It seems strange and somewhat risky - shouldn't the English department have more faith in the exam system and remarks? I wonder if the Governors were happy with this decision and, if they were, whether they are now?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:36 pm 
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A number of GSs have certainly had concerns about GCSE English marking and a number switched to IGCSE as a result. Yes, of course, the others switched back in time for the progress 8 measures, whereas RGS did not.


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