Dr challoners high school girls

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mad?
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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mm23292 wrote:October 31st is next Thursday...3 working days to sort out contracts and move house.
Ah but OP has been able to act with remarkable speed in the property market. On October 5th here https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum ... 30#p724830" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; he posted
RajMehta wrote:Hello
We have put our property on sale (outside the bucks) and looking to rent out a house closer to Dr Chanellor's High School for girls.Raj Mehta
but by October 25th
RajMehta wrote:We live in a rented property at the moment and willing to move by 31st October and live in Amersham for good.
:shock:
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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mad? wrote:
mm23292 wrote:October 31st is next Thursday...3 working days to sort out contracts and move house.
Ah but OP has been able to act with remarkable speed in the property market. On October 5th here https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum ... 30#p724830" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; he posted
RajMehta wrote:Hello
We have put our property on sale (outside the bucks) and looking to rent out a house closer to Dr Chanellor's High School for girls.Raj Mehta
but by October 25th
RajMehta wrote:We live in a rented property at the moment and willing to move by 31st October and live in Amersham for good.
:shock:
Perhaps owning a property which is rented out (which has to be disposed of?), but actually living in another, rented property? People do do that. Apparently. ?covering the mortgage on a more expensive property with rental income and renting a lower priced home for oneself.
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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Unfair.

If people are moving to the UK for school places for their children, why can't they plan better and move close to the school before their child takes the test?

The reason is that they want to take as many tests as possible, giving their child an unfair advantage over those already living in more permanent arrangements.

It is totally wrong and they should change the rules to stop people like this.
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RajMehta wrote:hello ,
My daughter has cleared her 11 plus bucks passing criteria.
We have found a property to rent in Amersham post code hp6 5hy. We do not have any other property. This house is 1.79 miles from dchs and as per bucks council website it says we are in catchment. If anyone can please advise if 1.79 miles is ok to get into dchs do we have any chance or it’s not possible .
Thanks
Sorry, am I missing something?
You said your property is up for sale, so that means you do have another property?
If that property isn't sold in the next few days you will not satisfy the residency criteria to get a place at a Bucks Grammar!
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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Deb70 wrote:Unfair.

If people are moving to the UK for school places for their children, why can't they plan better and move close to the school before their child takes the test?

The reason is that they want to take as many tests as possible, giving their child an unfair advantage over those already living in more permanent arrangements.

It is totally wrong and they should change the rules to stop people like this.
You have hit the nail on the head!
mm23292
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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This situation is quite simply unacceptable. Bucks residents need to be more vocal and press for something to change.

In 2015 LQE published a report which examined the impact of increasing numbers of non-resident children sitting the test.
This report highlighted the increasing trend and the fact that qualification rates are consistently much higher for these children.

In 2013, 2,443 non Bucks children sat the test. This had increased to 3,164 by 2015....

Last year, 10,339 children sat the test. Of this, 4,463 children were non Bucks! That is almost half the cohort that are non-Bucks resident!
And with qualification rates far lower for Bucks resident children, and an ever increasing threshold to reach 121, that leaves a lot of Bucks children without any hope of ever achieving a place.
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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Deb70 wrote:Unfair.

If people are moving to the UK for school places for their children, why can't they plan better and move close to the school before their child takes the test?

The reason is that they want to take as many tests as possible, giving their child an unfair advantage over those already living in more permanent arrangements.

It is totally wrong and they should change the rules to stop people like this.
I agree Deb70. It makes my blood boil. All my friends whose kids attended various local tuition centres over the summer, have commented on the number of out of county children who were attending. One child had seemingly spent his entire summer doing revision courses here there and everywhere, having been entered for every 11plus exam within a 100 mile radius. The parents had booked a local hotel for the duration of his 5 day course. These children do not live normal childhood lives, this relentless pursuit of 11plus success, is not just damaging for these children, but it is having an impact on all our children too. It has simply got to stop. We need to call for change; residency must be satisfied at the point of entering for the test, and not once the results are issued.
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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I understand that the test must be open to all, because there will be people genuinely moving into the area or with siblings, who are not test tourists or address fraudsters.

However, if they changed the residency rules so that people had to have lived at their address for a longer period of time (ideally before taking the test), surely this would deter a significant proportion of those playing the system.
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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Deb70 wrote:I understand that the test must be open to all, because there will be people genuinely moving into the area or with siblings, who are not test tourists or address fraudsters.

However, if they changed the residency rules so that people had to have lived at their address for a longer period of time (ideally before taking the test), surely this would deter a significant proportion of those playing the system.
For all our local secondary schools, the address for allocations on March 1st is 31st October. But over the boundary in Essex CC, for the Chelmsford GSs, to be considered IC it is September 1st, so after the closing date for registering for the exam, but before the exam is taken.
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Tinkers
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Re: Dr challoners high school girls

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ToadMum wrote:
Deb70 wrote:I understand that the test must be open to all, because there will be people genuinely moving into the area or with siblings, who are not test tourists or address fraudsters.

However, if they changed the residency rules so that people had to have lived at their address for a longer period of time (ideally before taking the test), surely this would deter a significant proportion of those playing the system.
For all our local secondary schools, the address for allocations on March 1st is 31st October. But over the boundary in Essex CC, for the Chelmsford GSs, to be considered IC it is September 1st, so after the closing date for registering for the exam, but before the exam is taken.
Similarly Reading and Kendrick have a cut off of the 31st August. Again before the test but after registration for the test.

I’m not sure how anyone actually manages to up sticks and move in a couple of weeks between the test results coming out and the 31st October and mange to get all the paperwork in order as well.
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