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CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:27 pm
by deepus
I've read the following details from the CCHS Information Guide.

"Applicants who wish to attend the entrance test for another school being held on the same day as the CCHS Entrance Test will not be permitted to sit the CCHS Entrance Test on an alternative day. This will not be deemed as an exceptional circumstance. The CEM (Centre for Evaluation and Monitoring) test can only be taken once. If it is found that a candidate has sat the CEM test more than once, the result obtained in the first test will be used by all schools.
[Admissions Policy for September 2015 Entry]"

According to the above, I would like to clarify Is this rule applicable only for the CEM Pattern happening on the same day as of CCHS. Few other counties are doing their entrance tests (CEM) on a different dates. If the child sits for those tests, would you be still considering the marks obtained from those tests whichever comes first. For example, Walsall Girls Grammar school is conducting their 11+ exams(CEM) on 1st July 2014. Has anybody approached chelmsford school regarding the same?

Please advise accordingly.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Re: CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:41 pm
by ToadMum
Looking at other posts concerning schools running a CEM 11+ on September 13th, some schools are quite explicit that the ruling concerns other tests taken on that day, from which one would infer that schools / areas where the main sitting is on another date - e.g. Bucks - are completely separate exams. My understanding re the exams on the 13th is that the raw score obtained wherever the paper is taken is then standardised along with the rest of the cohort registering there, and also with the cohort registered at any other of the 13 or however many schools / consortia sitting on the same day that you have registered your DC at, if you see what I mean.

Don't take this amiss, but if you are based in Chelmsford, please don't say that you are considering traipsing halfway across England to enter your DD for exams just for practice?

Re: CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:12 pm
by pinkrabbit38
deepus wrote:I've read the following details from the CCHS Information Guide.

"Applicants who wish to attend the entrance test for another school being held on the same day as the CCHS Entrance Test will not be permitted to sit the CCHS Entrance Test on an alternative day. This will not be deemed as an exceptional circumstance. The CEM (Centre for Evaluation and Monitoring) test can only be taken once. If it is found that a candidate has sat the CEM test more than once, the result obtained in the first test will be used by all schools.
[Admissions Policy for September 2015 Entry]"

According to the above, I would like to clarify Is this rule applicable only for the CEM Pattern happening on the same day as of CCHS. Few other counties are doing their entrance tests (CEM) on a different dates. If the child sits for those tests, would you be still considering the marks obtained from those tests whichever comes first. For example, Walsall Girls Grammar school is conducting their 11+ exams(CEM) on 1st July 2014. Has anybody approached chelmsford school regarding the same?

Please advise accordingly.

Thanking you in anticipation.
No, my understanding is that it applies to any CEM test taken this year not just on Sept 13th

Re: CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:50 am
by deepus
Hi

Thanks for your replies. I really wanted her to sit for the walsall for practice. But its to early. So if they are going to consider this score. I dont want to do that. Because she has got another two months to practise for CCHS. Quite Confused.

Thanks.

Re: CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:11 am
by KB
My guess is it's exactly that they are trying to prevent ie. they don't want girls practising.
But isn't the best thing to email them to check?

Re: CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:15 pm
by Crusoe
I've a same understanding as StephiB and that's what I've heard from some of the parents from Bucks and Berks.

If you would like your dd to take a practice exam why not try making her sit for mock exam through some 11+ mock providers?

There is a service in this forum itself. Visit for further info http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/11plus ... mock-exams" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

I also agree with KB. they don't want children to be much familiar with what they are going to undertake on the exam day. In fact I believe for that reason only CCHS has not provided us with proper sample papers like CSSE.

The best thing to do is preparing our child for any best/worst possibilities. I'm doing the same with my dd and we're confident to face any type of papers as we don't know which one to expect. Above all in the end it's the child's ability and how the exam day starts for them.

Better check with CCHS.

Re: CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:02 am
by TP123
Hi There, i think this is the most important piece of the CCHS advice: "If it is found that a candidate has sat the CEM test more than once, the result obtained in the first test will be used by all schools".

fwiw - I would definitely not sit any other real CEM exam because based on the CCHS guidelines - the results from that will be taken instead of that from the CCHS sitting as its before the 13th Sept exam.

I wrote to CCHS admissions with regards to Redbridge and CCHS as they are both on the same day and got good confirmation on that in terms of only one of the exam results will be taken into consideration and there will be NO discrimination on where the DD sat the exam.

Again - this is just my interpretation of the guidelines. The CCHS admissions email is very responsive and helpful - so you should contact them if still in doubt.

TP

Re: CEM Chelmsford 2015 entry

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:30 am
by Bob1892
TP123 wrote:Hi There, i think this is the most important piece of the CCHS advice: "If it is found that a candidate has sat the CEM test more than once, the result obtained in the first test will be used by all schools".

fwiw - I would definitely not sit any other real CEM exam because based on the CCHS guidelines - the results from that will be taken instead of that from the CCHS sitting as its before the 13th Sept exam.

I wrote to CCHS admissions with regards to Redbridge and CCHS as they are both on the same day and got good confirmation on that in terms of only one of the exam results will be taken into consideration and there will be NO discrimination on where the DD sat the exam.

Again - this is just my interpretation of the guidelines. The CCHS admissions email is very responsive and helpful - so you should contact them if still in doubt.

TP
I definitely wouldn't risk taking a cem test elsewhere as a mock just in case if it was my dc. There are plenty of cem-type tests out there if you want to give your dc some exam practice.
It looks like the cem organisation have cottoned on to the fact that parents are travelling all over the country to sample the cem phenomenon.