Boys and Girls cut offs
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To add to the confusion - if the girls and boys are grouped. We can't tell what % of boys were above/below average.
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SchoolMum3G wrote:So many sit it don't they! Quite a few will be bunched close to the 300 - so between 300-303 there would be quite a few. Possibly more than you've suggestedFNHM wrote:Thank you!
Wow. So 2901 boys sat the exam.
300 is the central point in the standardisation meaning that 50% are above and 50% below, right? And 303 is the pass mark so a little under half of the boys will have passed so say 1425. And they are all hoping to get the 660 or so boys grammar places available. So there will be a lot of disappointed boys this year! Around 765 of them!
Ah ok- that makes a bit more sense then. Thank you!
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SchoolMum3G wrote:To add to the confusion - if the girls and boys are grouped. We can't tell what % of boys were above/below average.
Ha ha.... so the moral is to try your luck on the application form for any schools that you are anywhere near the previous year's marks for then!
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But close to it, say 48%?
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211 boys in catchment passed as announced at SHSB this afternoon.
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Thanks Pushymother!
So that means that if they all apply, that's 365 total combined places for boys (180 for Southend and 185 for Westcliffe) and of those, 211 go to in catchment boys and a total of 154 go to boys out of catchment (assuming that catchments for Westcliffe and Southend are the same, and assuming that none of those opt for KEGS or CRGS)?
Wonder how that compares to previous years to know how high or low the cut offs will be?
So that means that if they all apply, that's 365 total combined places for boys (180 for Southend and 185 for Westcliffe) and of those, 211 go to in catchment boys and a total of 154 go to boys out of catchment (assuming that catchments for Westcliffe and Southend are the same, and assuming that none of those opt for KEGS or CRGS)?
Wonder how that compares to previous years to know how high or low the cut offs will be?
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From memory, when my DS took the exam two years ago, the CRGS PAN was 120 and I think the ColCHS Pan was 150, so there were 30 extra places for girls in Colchester. Not sure about the numbers for the other schools in Essex though.FNHM wrote:Hi all,
Does anyone know why the girls and boys cut offs are so different? My son has 324.737, so if he were a girl would be almost guaranteed Southend and a good chance for Westcliffe and even Colchester. As a boy, he'll be lucky to get Southend Boys on a really good day (we are out of catchment).
Why is there such discrepancy? Are the scores standardised together and boys outperform girls as a whole or is there more to it?
Thanks!
I may be wrong, but my understanding is that 300 is the mean score, in that, if a candidate got the average mark in each paper, then he/she would have a standardised score of 300.FNHM wrote:Thank you!
Wow. So 2901 boys sat the exam.
300 is the central point in the standardisation meaning that 50% are above and 50% below, right? And 303 is the pass mark so a little under half of the boys will have passed so say 1425. And they are all hoping to get the 660 or so boys grammar places available. So there will be a lot of disappointed boys this year! Around 765 of them!
This is not the same as the median (midpoint) score, which could be higher or lower than 300.
A maths expert may correct me, but what I am saying is that the mean and median are not always the same number.
My guess is that the median score is lower than 300, which would mean that less than 50% of candidates scored above 300.
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Re: Boys and Girls cut offs
That's very useful information. Is there any such information for girls?pushymother wrote:211 boys in catchment passed as announced at SHSB this afternoon.
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242 IC passes, apparently.proud_parent wrote:That's very useful information. Is there any such information for girls?pushymother wrote:211 boys in catchment passed as announced at SHSB this afternoon.
https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum ... 10#p643050
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