I note that the Redbridge council have kindly released 2017 entrance test scores under FOI request. Has anyone tried CCHSG for the same?
It would be really helpful to know the ranking and IC/OC status.
Anyone who has any links?

Doesn't look like it
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/list/successful?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=Chelmsford+county+high+school&request_date_after=2017%2F10%2F01&request_date_before=2017%2F11%2F01&commit=Search

You could make a request yourself?

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Thanks for the link. I checked and there are already 2 requests for this with no success.
I doubt they will release details so easily.

I think Chelmsford County High has yet to respond. The requests have been filed under unresolved. They have not been classified as unsuccessful.

Hi Chai
How long can the process take?

They have to respond within 20 school days.

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Hi there,

I've never posted before as have only just found this board but felt compelled too.

I entered a FoI on 20 October 2017 which hasn't been properly addressed. This is the response I received:

"The purpose of releasing the results before the Common Application Form (CAF) deadline is to provide parents with information to assist when deciding whether to include Chelmsford County High School for Girls as one of the schools listed on the Common Application Form (CAF) to the local authority.

The School does not know at this stage who has formally applied and whether the application of our oversubscription criteria may need to be used.

We recommend parents list schools in the order they would like their daughter to attend, rather than trying to predict where she may be offered a place based on exam results. If you want your daughter to come to this school above any other school, you should put Chelmsford County High School for Girls as your first preference. If the first preference cannot be met, your 2nd, 3rd choice etc. will be considered in accordance with each school's admissions criteria.

Any queries on completing the CAF should be directed to your home local authority."

Not an answer in any which way. I don't really want to push it as I'm well aware that things aren't quite what they seem at CCHS - for example that state school children aren't allowed to visit yet private schools are - so I don't want my child being pushed conveniently to one side because I chose to push for information.

Shame really as I don't think its a particularly fair system or that CCHS operate within the means of what a Grammar School stands for.

From the other group these are the woodford county results

Woodford county scores for 2018 entry
Total girls 1109
Passed 457
129.53
129.41
128.41
127.55
127.29
127.28
127.19
127.14
126.67
126.52
126.46
126.43
126.27
126.24
126.07
125.78
125.62
125.32
125.14
124.89
124.81
124.61
124.26
124.26
123.75
123.55
123.55
123.5
123.48
123.35
123.26
123.11
123
122.91
122.91
122.87
122.84
122.81
122.69
122.68
122.66
122.29
122.21
122
121.99
121.77
121.62
121.6
121.42
121.3
121.29
121.1
121.01
121
120.97
120.87
120.84
120.8
120.8
120.73
120.65
120.63
120.33
120.27
120.22
120.14
120.13
120.08
119.97
119.69
119.69
119.67
119.64
119.51
119.47
119.46
119.37
119.22
119.13
119.09
119.09
119.05
119.01
118.9
118.82
118.8
118.71
118.69
118.65
118.58
118.58
118.58
118.51
118.38
118.36
118.35
118.29
118.19
118.14
118.1
118.09
118.05
117.85
117.85
117.68
117.68
117.64
117.6
117.59
117.58
117.49
117.49
117.39
117.32
117.25
117.18
117.15
117.07
117.06
117.05
117.03
116.99
116.87
116.87
116.71
116.68
116.6
116.59
116.5
116.41
116.41
116.39
116.33
116.3
116.27
116.25
116.24
116.22
116.17
116.14
116.11
116.09
115.96
115.73
115.73
115.6
115.58
115.46
115.44
115.41
115.32
115.26
115.26
115.25
115.21
115.2
115.18
115.14
115.13
115.08
115.01
114.98
114.96
114.92
114.85
114.85
114.82
114.66
114.56
114.53
114.52
114.41
114.4
114.39
114.37
114.36
114.36
114.32
114.26
114.13
114.08
114.07
114.05
114.05
114.04
113.97
113.93
113.78
113.72
113.72
113.6
113.6
113.58
113.55
113.55
113.55
113.52
113.47
113.47
113.47
113.43
113.42
113.36
113.25
113.15
113.12
113.08
113.07
112.99
112.95
112.95
112.92
112.91
112.9
112.86
112.73
112.71
112.69
112.68
112.67
112.63
112.63
112.62
112.6
112.56
112.55
112.51
112.49
112.48
112.47
112.44
112.43
112.37
112.32
112.32
112.32
112.3
112.29
112.21
112.15
112.14
112.13
112.09
112.05
111.93
111.9
111.9
111.82
111.79
111.79
111.77
111.76
111.73
111.52
111.45
111.4
111.4
111.37
111.35
111.32
111.3
111.22
111.22
111.22
111.2
111.17
111.09
111.08
111.06
111.05
111.02
111.01
110.99
110.87
110.86
110.83
110.78
110.77
110.73
110.7
110.67
110.64
110.6
110.59
110.57
110.54
110.52
110.51
110.44
110.44
110.29
110.27
110.19
110.12
110.09
110.05
110.04
110.03
110.03
110.03
109.97
109.93
109.93
109.87
109.84
109.8
109.72
109.69
109.63
109.61
109.54
109.52
109.44
109.44
109.37
109.36
109.28
109.25
109.24
109.23
109.14
109.14
109.11
109.04
109.03
108.93
108.86
108.85
108.84
108.84
108.82
108.77
108.66
108.66
108.62
108.59
108.52
108.46
108.43
108.32
108.31
108.17
108.17
108.17
108.14
108.1
108.04
107.98
107.96
107.95
107.91
107.9
107.89
107.85
107.82
107.8
107.76
107.73
107.69
107.68
107.67
107.55
107.53
107.53
107.52
107.51
107.49
107.43
107.4
107.36
107.35
107.33
107.31
107.31
107.29
107.29
107.21
107.16
107.14
107.13
107.12
106.95
106.95
106.92
106.89
106.84
106.82
106.81
106.77
106.77
106.6
106.6
106.55
106.52
106.51
106.5
106.48
106.45
106.42
106.39
106.32
106.31
106.26
106.14
106.14
106.11
106.1
106.1
105.85
105.84
105.71
105.71
105.67
105.63
105.62
105.61
105.59
105.58
105.56
105.55
105.51
105.5
105.47
105.23
105.21
105.21
105.2
105.16
104.99
104.97
104.82
104.8
104.79
104.75
104.75
104.69
104.6
104.55
104.52
104.49
104.44
104.42
104.4
104.36
104.34
104.31
104.28
104.21
104.19
104.18
104.16
104.15
104.14
104.11
104.11
104.02
104.02
103.95
103.91
103.85
103.81
103.78
103.78
103.73
103.67
103.64
103.62
103.59
103.47
103.47
103.46
103.41
103.36
103.33
103.32
103.28
103.23
103.19
103.18
103.16
103.11
103.09
103.01
102.96
102.85
102.84
102.81
102.81
102.72
102.7
102.67
102.65
102.6
102.58
102.57
102.57
102.52
102.49
102.35
102.34
102.33
102.32
102.29
102.26
102.22
102.19
102.17
102.14
102.07
102.05
102.04
102
101.79
101.76
101.72
101.69
101.68
101.67
101.64
101.61
101.61
101.61
101.49
101.46
101.42
101.35
101.34
101.29
101.21
101.2
100.98
100.92
100.92
100.88
100.82
100.75
100.74
100.74
100.72
100.71
100.68
100.64
100.63
100.6
100.59
100.48
100.47
100.45
100.44
100.43
100.4
100.33
100.3
100.27
100.2
100.16
100.1
99.93
99.9
99.83
99.82
99.82
99.67
99.65
99.6
99.59
99.58
99.55
99.53
99.52
99.51
99.51
99.44
99.41
99.38
99.38
99.35
99.35
99.31
99.31
99.24
99.23
99.21
99.21
99.21
99.21
99.2
99.17
99.15
99.11
99.07
99
98.94
98.9
98.83
98.82
98.81
98.81
98.79
98.79
98.74
98.67
98.61
98.56
98.56
98.55
98.47
98.37
98.36
98.35
98.31
98.3
98.3
98.19
98.17
98.16
98.15
98.13
98.08
98.02
97.97
97.94
97.93
97.91
97.86
97.69
97.68
97.68
97.61
97.54
97.51
97.43
97.41
97.37
97.34
97.31
97.22
97.21
97.19
97.17
97.16
97.14
97.1
97.09
97.02
97
97
96.95
96.84
96.82
96.81
96.75
96.74
96.72
96.7
96.68
96.66
96.54
96.49
96.44
96.41
96.4
96.34
96.32
96.31
96.2
96.16
96.15
96.14
96.12
96.11
96.08
96.08
96.08
96.07
96.05
96.02
96.01
96.01
95.91
95.9
95.86
95.78
95.76
95.76
95.71
95.68
95.67
95.65
95.64
95.61
95.59
95.55
95.51
95.38
95.34
95.25
95.22
95.18
95.18
95.17
95.11
95.08
95.05
95.03
95
94.98
94.98
94.92
94.86
94.86
94.8
94.79
94.73
94.7
94.66
94.63
94.62
94.47
94.46
94.45
94.41
94.38
94.37
94.37
94.33
94.33
94.29
94.23
94.21
94.2
94.13
94.08
94.02
94.01
94
93.99
93.96
93.95
93.8
93.79
93.74
93.74
93.73
93.68
93.64
93.58
93.58
93.55
93.4
93.35
93.35
93.34
93.33
93.32
93.32
93.25
93.23
93.17
93.08
93.07
93.05
93.03
92.89
92.89
92.88
92.87
92.82
92.8
92.72
92.72
92.72
92.6
92.59
92.58
92.54
92.52
92.44
92.43
92.42
92.41
92.4
92.39
92.28
92.25
92.21
92.21
92.19
92.17
92.13
92.11
92.09
92.04
92.04
92.01
92
91.99
91.76
91.68
91.61
91.56
91.48
91.46
91.46
91.45
91.44
91.43
91.39
91.38
91.37
91.34
91.31
91.31
91.29
91.26
91.21
91.21
91.18
91.17
91.12
91.07
91.06
91.02
91.02
90.91
90.86
90.8
90.62
90.57
90.56
90.52
90.51
90.45
90.45
90.39
90.29
90.27
90.26
90.24
90.2
90.19
90.14
90.03
90.03
89.99
89.97
89.89
89.84
89.76
89.68
89.67
89.61
89.6
89.54
89.51
89.46
89.45
89.44
89.4
89.36
89.35
89.31
89.3
89.29
89.25
89.24
89.18
89.17
89.16
89.11
89.01
88.94
88.91
88.87
88.84
88.84
88.8
88.8
88.76
88.75
88.75
88.67
88.62
88.56
88.47
88.44
88.33
88.32
88.28
88.24
88.2
88.16
87.92
87.89
87.77
87.73
87.59
87.58
87.55
87.48
87.45
87.42
87.4
87.31
87.14
87.13
86.97
86.88
86.84
86.8
86.8
86.78
86.76
86.7
86.7
86.67
86.66
86.65
86.58
86.53
86.45
86.28
86.27
86.25
86.15
86.13
86.13
86.12
86.11
86.07
86.03
86.02
86.01
85.99
85.94
85.88
85.84
85.8
85.76
85.73
85.67
85.66
85.6
85.49
85.46
85.43
85.43
85.42
85.41
85.4
85.39
85.36
85.32
85.31
85.23
85.12
85.11
84.99
84.98
84.94
84.79
84.74
84.73
84.73
84.72
84.68
84.5
84.5
84.41
84.4
84.39
84.36
84.15
84.09
84.04
83.94
83.85
83.81
83.54
83.52
83.4
83.35
83.32
83.25
82.98
82.91
82.75
82.74
82.7
82.6
82.59
82.58
82.54
82.54
82.51
82.42
82.4
82.15
82.04
82.03
82
81.98
81.93
81.93
81.84
81.79
81.78
81.77
81.74
81.6
81.53
81.48
81.47
81.45
81.43
81.43
81.33
81.21
81.2
81.08
80.93
80.86
80.77
80.72
80.72
80.59
80.55
80.51
80.46
80.45
80.43
80.36
80.2
80.19
80.19
80.15
80.15
80.09
80.02
79.97
79.93
79.89
79.89
79.88
79.63
79.62
79.61
79.58
79.57
79.52
79.13
79.03
78.93
78.7
78.63
78.6
78.44
78.44
78.44
78.43
78.39
78.37
77.84
77.74
77.68
77.64
77.63
77.57
77.52
77.5
77.34
77.25
77.2
77.04
76.89
76.88
76.74
76.71
76.48
76.48
76.13
75.95
75.92
75.88
75.66
75.31
74.88
74.8
74.61
74.54
74.37
73.96
73.9
73.8
73.56
73.21
72.83
72.76
72.52
71.96
71.78
71.71
71.7
71.44
71.06
68.66
67.73
65.84
53.61
I think the exam is on the same day but the standardized scoring is a bit different. So confusing!

The standardised scores are different, because the two groups are not made up of exactly the same candidates. For instance, in theory, anyone living within the common catchment area for WCHS stands a chance of getting one of the 30 open places (on score, regardless of place one residence) at CCHS. However, no-one not living within the common catchment area for WCHS stands a chance of betting a place at WCHS. That and the fact that CCHS is very well placed for transport links, makes it likely that the CCHS cohort will include a large number who also registered in Redbridge (and elsewhere outside catchment, but within reasonable travelling distance / time of Chelmsford), whereas the WCHS cohort will most likely be more geographically homogenous.

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Even more confusing is that their FOI result request is from the council BUT we have to request the school!