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Author:  dr.watson [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Safe rank for Tommies

Hi,

My son has been ranked 305. Can you please advise if this is safe? The letter says that 2017 Lowest Rank was 265 but they're adding 30 places next year (150 boys from 120). A total of 883 applied for Tommies.

Cheers,
Dr. Watson

Author:  stroudydad [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

Hi DR Watson.
Unfortunately I would say not. Obviously no one knows for sure but the extra places that both Crypt and Tommies are putting on will likely be nearly negated by the introduction of girls at Crypt.

Did he qualify for any others or were you you only interested in Tommies?

Author:  dr.watson [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

Hi, Tommies is convenient to us. He got 514 rank out of 1818 at Crypt which will be our 2nd choice (1-600 are considered to have achieved a qualifying standard and our last preference would be Marling. He got 251 there. Last year they took 384.

Cheers,
Dr. Watson.

Author:  stroudydad [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

We shall all have to wait and see.. but I would guess it will be Marling that is offered.

Author:  FFF1-8 [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

dr.watson wrote:
Hi, Tommies is convenient to us. He got 514 rank out of 1818 at Crypt which will be our 2nd choice (1-600 are considered to have achieved a qualifying standard and our last preference would be Marling. He got 251 there. Last year they took 384.

Cheers,
Dr. Watson.


Please note the 384 at Marling would have included a child admitted on appeal meaning on allocations day the rank could have been 300 for example

Author:  cazien [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

dr.watson wrote:
Hi,

My son has been ranked 305. Can you please advise if this is safe? The letter says that 2017 Lowest Rank was 265 but they're adding 30 places next year (150 boys from 120). A total of 883 applied for Tommies.

Cheers,
Dr. Watson


Unfortunately I would also have to agree it is not a safe rank - but who knows! As Amber has stated in other sections, people are not opting for Pates as a first choice - which rapidly fills up STR and HSFG. Put your order of preference and as stroudydad says wait and see. Good luck.

Author:  stroudydad [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

FFF1-8 wrote:
dr.watson wrote:
Hi, Tommies is convenient to us. He got 514 rank out of 1818 at Crypt which will be our 2nd choice (1-600 are considered to have achieved a qualifying standard and our last preference would be Marling. He got 251 there. Last year they took 384.

Cheers,
Dr. Watson.


Please note the 384 at Marling would have included a child admitted on appeal meaning on allocations day the rank could have been 300 for example


You are incorrect.. this was on allocations day..

Author:  Wolczr [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

Dear all

apologies for my ignorance at the outset. I have been following things very closely and after much have struggled to find much information on how the ranking system works. My understanding is this (and please, somebody, correct me if i am wrong): all the children receive a rank depending on their score. Their rank relates to the whole region (all grammar schools in the region) and not a specific school. So if a school identifies a rank of say 250 as a qualifying score, that is a rank across all schools i.e. it is not the case that if a school has 150 places and somebody has a score of 250, then they are 100 places out. In other words, the ranking is across all schools and not just individual schools. is this correct? I ask as we are going through this next year.

Author:  can'tthinkofone [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

stroudydad - on the emails for HSFG they are quoting a figure of 364 that they allocated to last year but as someone who went through the appeal process last year I know that on allocation day it was actually 314 on allocation day according to the schools response to our appeal. The 364 referred to a child who was allocated a space after reconsideration (I think this is between 1st March and 31st March) under the education act as they had a statement.

My DD ranked between these numbers and we had to appeal for a place. It did cause some confusion at the time with me frantically checking that I hadn't missed a response or not ticked the right box but I asked the school and they clarified that she got a place ahead of my DD because of the education act.

I obviously don't know about other schools - do you have any information that may substantiate the numbers further and be useful for this years applicants?

Author:  can'tthinkofone [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Safe rank for Tommies

Wolczr wrote:
Dear all

apologies for my ignorance at the outset. I have been following things very closely and after much have struggled to find much information on how the ranking system works. My understanding is this (and please, somebody, correct me if i am wrong): all the children receive a rank depending on their score. Their rank relates to the whole region (all grammar schools in the region) and not a specific school. So if a school identifies a rank of say 250 as a qualifying score, that is a rank across all schools i.e. it is not the case that if a school has 150 places and somebody has a score of 250, then they are 100 places out. In other words, the ranking is across all schools and not just individual schools. is this correct? I ask as we are going through this next year.


You get a different rank for each school as it depends on who shares their results with that school.

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