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MODs. DAO and SW Herts appear to be the only CEM VR only exams in the country so could we please have them back in the same section as they used to be. I am currently having to do a lot of double posting. We have lots to talk about and need to be reunited!

As everyone in Herts and N London (DAO, SW Herts, HBS and Latymer) is now doing CEM instead of ST M's and QE it probably makes sense to put us together and put QE in a separate section. DG

Thank you. It seems very likely that it is going to be exactly the same exam on the same day. DG

Question who is this for. Sw herts is one area and one application system, sensible to keep it together. Others for people who want travel much further. If about type of test, the. Just have a group for exam and tutor info. But sw herts was good to help people swap views, info of schools. As the name says its a mad system, although not as mad as the mash up mad system of sen department at
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This is an eleven plus forum where parents come to find out how to prepare their students to gain a selective place at these schools. Once you have the luxury of choice then more general information about the schools themselves is useful, but not if you are not actually able to go there because you have not gained a place.

The most important information is the preparation information and right now DAO and SW Herts are the only exams we know if in the country who are going to use a CEM English VR only format.

Putting them together does not stop you exchanging views about the schools. If that is your main interest then just look at that thread. The application system is just a few minutes filling in a form. On the CAF you will apply to the different schools just like everyone else and they will all have different pass marks to gain entrance. Location and application form is a tiny cog, exam format is the decider of who gains a place.

SW Herts parents have until 5th September to come to grips with a different exam format for 50% of the exam. In my opinion that should be their 100% focus right now, not feedback about the school itself. The time to do that is when your student wins the rank that will give them the place.

Understanding the format and preparing with it is what will secure the place.

The others forum is not for people who want to travel further, DAO and Latymer are catchment only so you can't go to the school unless you live in catchment. HBS and QE have some who travel long distances but the vast majority do not.

Latymer and HBS VR CEM information is now of great value to Y5 SW Herts parents. A SW Herts parents view about the VR exam based on previous years is now not going to help you at all. DG

Daogroupie wrote:The most important information is the preparation information and right now DAO and SW Herts are the only exams we know if in the country who are going to use a CEM English VR only format.

Latymer and HBS VR CEM information is now of great value to Y5 SW Herts parents. A SW Herts parents view about the VR exam based on previous years is now not going to help you at all. DG

DG are you saying that SW Herts and DAO are going to be using the same exam papers for maths and VR?

SW Herts and DAO have both abandoned Moray House and traditional VR and moved to CEM VR for their VR Paper. It is on exactly the same day 5th September but we don't yet know if it is the same paper and if they will share results. DG

Daogroupie wrote:SW Herts and DAO have both abandoned Moray House and traditional VR and moved to CEM VR for their VR Paper. It is on exactly the same day 5th September but we don't yet know if it is the same paper and if they will share results. DG

As it is only the VR that they may have in common, I don't see how DAO is any more relevant to SW Herts parents than Chesham Grammar (which has already moved to CEM VR). If groupings were made by test format, every school that currently requires CEM VR would need to be grouped together.

Chesham Grammar has moved 100% to CEM. This is the more normal approach that we now know a lot about. Birmingham has been 100% CEM for over six years.

But until now HBS was the only school to cherry pick CEM and only do the VR and NR and not the NVR.

Now we have DAO and SW Herts only doing the CEM VR. They are the only schools in the country so far to do this so this gives them much more in common than the other schools.

CEM VR is currently split over two papers so there is no one CEM VR paper. So there has never been just a CEM VR paper. So this is all new this year. DG

i too agree they should be merged as this is the first time for a VR CEM paper only unlike one of the parents suggesting re bucks - cannot compare to bucks as the VR is a small section within a complete paper
so yes it would be very valuable for parents who are considering DAO and parents for SWC to have some forum where it is all in the one place
and for many the cross over schools are in the same locality so it would help see both areas merged again as it provides information to all - parents can choose to ignore the ones that are not relevant to their process
thanks