MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Grammar

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Ushi75
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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mena wrote:What about the outer catchment places?
Maybe he was awarded an outer catchment place.
Not all students are local.
Watford Grammar don't have an out of catchment policy. They are always heavily oversubscribed and don't have enough spaces for their own residents. They also don't offer music or any other scholarships to out of catchment students. The only way this family has gained a place under a music scholarship, was to use a false address in Harrow, Watford or the Traditional area. All students in Watford Grammar Boys School are local or the school wont accept the application.
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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loopylala wrote:
Ushi75 wrote:Can an MBE be withdrawn with deceit like this?
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Thank you, have reported it.
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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piggys wrote:
Ushi75 wrote:All parents who are on the waiting list at Watford Boys for admission into Year 7 2018, please be aware that a mum living in Uxbridge, 15 miles away, has successfully gained entry for her son (music scholarship) into Watford Grammar School. 449 students living in Watford and the admission area are still waiting for a place.

Can an MBE be withdrawn with deceit like this? Watford Grammar School for boys ought to act in a fair and honourable manner, and give places according to their own admissions criteria / policy.

Does anyone know how this can be stopped ? Are there any parents who have been declined a place in the admission area -This is your chance to step forward and ask for your rightful place at the school - this is all wrong?
What is your stake in this matter Ushi75? why are you posting?

This is a discussion board and we have no powers of intervention here. if you are so concerned, contact the school yourself.
I have, just making all other Watford residents on the waitinglist aware of this fraud. Its not fair that people like this make a mockery of the education system in England and spoil it for all the honest parents out there.
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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Other people cannot report anything without evidence. Watford boys have music places not scholarship places. It is a state semi selective school. They do have both an inner and outer catchment area. I do not think you should be whipping up a frenzy about a school's admission procedure you do not understand. If you have evidence that child outside the inner and outer catchment areas has been awarded a place after fraudulently submitting information you and you alone should contact the school and the LA with that evidence.
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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Hera wrote:Other people cannot report anything without evidence. Watford boys have music places not scholarship places. It is a state semi selective school. They do have both an inner and outer catchment area. I do not think you should be whipping up a frenzy about a school's admission procedure you do not understand. If you have evidence that child outside the inner and outer catchment areas has been awarded a place after fraudulently submitting information you and you alone should contact the school and the LA with that evidence.
You obviously haven't read Watford Grammar school's admissions policy. They do offer music and academic scholarships. They however do NOT offer out of catchment placements at all because they are heavily over subscribed. If you don't understand or have read their admission criteria I suggest you refrain from commenting on this forum especially on things you don't know about.
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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Ushi - state schools do not have scholarships - are you sure you are referring to the right school?
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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These are specialist School places not scholarships as such.

State schools do not offer scholarships as they are not fee paying schools.

I am pleased to see you have now reported the possible case of admissions fraud.

One report will be enough for the LA to start investigating.

Cross post with HM
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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Ushi75 wrote:
Hera wrote:Other people cannot report anything without evidence. Watford boys have music places not scholarship places. It is a state semi selective school. They do have both an inner and outer catchment area. I do not think you should be whipping up a frenzy about a school's admission procedure you do not understand. If you have evidence that child outside the inner and outer catchment areas has been awarded a place after fraudulently submitting information you and you alone should contact the school and the LA with that evidence.
You obviously haven't read Watford Grammar school's admissions policy. They do offer music and academic scholarships. They however do NOT offer out of catchment placements at all because they are heavily over subscribed. If you don't understand or have read their admission criteria I suggest you refrain from commenting on this forum especially on things you don't know about.
I have read and fully understand Watford Boy's admissions policy. Watford boys is a semi selective school which offers 10% of places based on a music aptitude exam, followed by an audition for successful applicants. They offer 25% of places based on an academic exam. 65% of these academic and music places are allocated to the inner catchment and 35% to the outer catchment. Watford boys is not a private school so they do not have scholarship places. A scholarship place is where a private school offers a reduction in fees where a child has proved themselves to be exceptionally academically able. I hope I have helped you to understand the system. This is what the forum is all about; providing support and information often for people who are misinformed or people who have an agenda that may be at odds to the benefit of other forum members.
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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Tinkers wrote:These are specialist School places not scholarships as such.

State schools do not offer scholarships as they are not fee paying schools.

I am pleased to see you have now reported the possible case of admissions fraud.

One report will be enough for the LA to start investigating.

Cross post with HM
676 applicants applied to Watford, 459 from Watford area, 214 from the traditional area and 3 from the other areas. They only take 224 places, with that 13 in Watford received a music place and 9 in the rest of the admission area got the music place, a total of 22 received a music place in the school. 34 received a place under the academic test who live in Watford and 22 received a academic place who live in the rest of the admission area.
This is regarded as a music and academic scholarship even if its free. All places are for Watford area and the surrounding area, they do not offer any places to anyone not living in what they call their catchment.
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Re: MBE Mum lies to gain Music Scholarship in Watford Gramma

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Hera wrote:
Ushi75 wrote:
Hera wrote:Other people cannot report anything without evidence. Watford boys have music places not scholarship places. It is a state semi selective school. They do have both an inner and outer catchment area. I do not think you should be whipping up a frenzy about a school's admission procedure you do not understand. If you have evidence that child outside the inner and outer catchment areas has been awarded a place after fraudulently submitting information you and you alone should contact the school and the LA with that evidence.
You obviously haven't read Watford Grammar school's admissions policy. They do offer music and academic scholarships. They however do NOT offer out of catchment placements at all because they are heavily over subscribed. If you don't understand or have read their admission criteria I suggest you refrain from commenting on this forum especially on things you don't know about.
I have read and fully understand Watford Boy's admissions policy. Watford boys is a semi selective school which offers 10% of places based on a music aptitude exam, followed by an audition for successful applicants. They offer 25% of places based on an academic exam. 65% of these academic and music places are allocated to the inner catchment and 35% to the outer catchment. Watford boys is not a private school so they do not have scholarship places. A scholarship place is where a private school offers a reduction in fees where a child has proved themselves to be exceptionally academically able. I hope I have helped you to understand the system. This is what the forum is all about; providing support and information often for people who are misinformed or people who have an agenda that may be at odds to the benefit of other forum members.
676 applicants applied to Watford for year 7 entry in 2018, 459 from Watford area, 214 from the traditional area and 3 from the other areas. They only take 224 places, with that 13 in Watford received a music place and 9 in the rest of the admission area got the music place, a total of 22 received a music place in the school. 34 received a place under the academic test who live in Watford and 22 received a academic place who live in the rest of the admission area.
This is regarded as a music and academic scholarship even if its free. All places are for Watford area and the surrounding area, they do not offer any places to anyone not living in what they call their catchment.
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