Raw Scores 2013

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cs13
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Re: Why?

Post by cs13 »

Why?

Because certain super selective grammars (ie Judd) are unhappy with the Kent test because it does not "differentiate effectively at the top end", and so they are considering setting their own entrance exam:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-22713311

KCC is against this because, "any time you give children an extra test, it complicates life for them and their families. It adds to the pressure and complicates the process, which is something we would regret."

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/ ... hool-1338/

So KCC have increased the full marks boundary this year by 8% so that the Kent test "differentiates effectively at the top end", meaning that Judd no longer needs to set its own entrance exam.
mystery
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Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by mystery »

Can you explain that last bit more please?
cs13
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Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by cs13 »

No
mystery
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Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by mystery »

:lol: The data you quote suggests that it was harder to get a higher raw score this year than last year I.e. that the paper was intrinsically harder.

It could follow from this that it was a paper that discriminated better between candidates at the top end , but in the past judd have admitted all the children who applied with 423 anyhow haven't they, so splitting up the top scorers was not the problem they had with the test.

I am still not clear if we know what problem they did have with the test in past years and whether or not it was resolved in the 2013 sitting, or if the new test for 2014 will keep them happy longer term- or do you have inside knowledge?
rosered100

Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by rosered100 »

I believe the problem for Judd is that the Kent Test is quite maths based - even the VR has a lot of codes (DS1 converted to numbers & counted!!) They want a more balanced test with more emphasis on written English ...'It will be balanced with a creative writing element to it, comprehension and mathematics.'
Bobmumof3
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Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by Bobmumof3 »

At appeal is the creative writing looked at? I know it is for HT appeal, but just wondering if the
Judd might look favourably at a good piece of writing as part of the academic evidence.
Push
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Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by Push »

VR:77 141
NVR:60 141
Maths:45 141

Total: 423

We are OCC
edmum
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Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by edmum »

My son scored the following - age 10 year and 10 months

VR 65 = 141
NVR 49 = 132
Maths 38 = 134

KCC have confirmed he would required 55 for NVR and 42 in maths to get 141 this year.

Assuming there is little difference between his age and an 11 year old ( so close)
According to this forum the minimum scores needed in previous years to get 141 for an 11 year old were

VR: 63 out of 80 (2010), 62 out of 80 (2011) and 64 out of 80 (2012 – max score 141)
NVR: 50 out of 72 (2010), 53 out of 72 (2011) and 51 out of 72 (2012 – max score 141)
Maths: 40 out of 50 (2010), 39 out of 50 (2011) and 39 out of 50 (2012 – max score 141)

Last year he would have surely scored closer to 141 in both or does such a 1 to 2 marks difference make such a big difference to standardised score...
mkrishn5
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Re: Raw Scores 2013

Post by mkrishn5 »

Hi All,

My son has scored
VR 141
NVR 141
Maths 138
Total Score is 420. Is there any chance of my son getting a seat in Dartford Grammar school. We live in Hertfordshire.

Thanks,
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