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Heleneric
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Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by Heleneric »

Congratulations to all the kids who passed the Kent test and commiserations to those who missed out.

Last year I did a rough analysis of raw scores to indicate the pass mark for each section: Maths, English and Reasoning.

I'd like to do the same this year because it reveals how the new style test is functioning and the disparities between the pass marks for the different sections. As someone has already pointed out, it is also helpful for parents beginning the 11+ journey to know what is likely to be expected of their children.

Although a raw score thread has already been started I'm starting another one because I'm particularly interested in raw scores that are near the pass mark i.e. they translate into a score under 120 for each section.

My own DD (aged 10 years and 10 months) passed with scores of:
English: 137
Maths: 117
Reasoning 114

Once KCC respond to my request for her raw scores I will post them.
Heleneric
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by Heleneric »

DD aged 10 yrs and 10 months

English 137 - 23/25
Maths 117 - 15/25
Reasoning 114 - 45/80
CH55
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by CH55 »

Hi Heleneric

My daughter got 117 in English but her raw score was 19/25? New to this but how can 4 marks difference equal 20 marks difference in the standardised scores.

She was 10 and 9 months in September when they took the test?

Sure it is right but seems odd.

Thanks so much
Cath28
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by Cath28 »

The standardised score is more of a case of losing "so many marks" for each question they get wrong.. and adjusted by age too
CH55
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by CH55 »

Thanks Heleneric.

It's such a minefield.

Other raw scores I forgot to post earlier:

Maths 114 (14/25)
Reasoning 141 (71/80).

Still a bit confused how they do it as friend of my daughters same age (December rather than November born?) also got 137 in English and 23/25 so whilst the maths seems to tally, the English at 19/25 equating to 117 seems not to match. Nothing to be done about it but it's all confusing.

Thanks anyway! x
Heleneric
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by Heleneric »

Hi CH55,

Early indications suggest the pass mark for English was 16/25 (106) and 24/25 scored full marks (141).

So that means that the 8 correct answers between 16 and 24 were each worth 4-5 standardised marks.

Hence a difference of 4 correct answers can translate into 20 standardised marks.

(It won't be the same for Maths and Reasoning because the pass marks were lower and in Reasoning there were more than 3X as many questions.)

PLEASE KEEP THOSE RAW SCORES COMING IN - especially anyone whose child had a low pass or a narrow fail in Maths.
grasshopper4
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by grasshopper4 »

I think 15 is the lowest in English as my son at 10.8 got 15 - 108 standardised. So I'm guessing at 11 the same mark would score a 106?
Cath28
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by Cath28 »

E 12/99
M 10/102
R 40/110
Age 11
Cath28
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by Cath28 »

Heleneric wrote:Hi CH55,

Early indications suggest the pass mark for English was 16/25 (106) and 24/25 scored full marks (141).

So that means that the 8 correct answers between 16 and 24 were each worth 4-5 standardised marks.

Hence a difference of 4 correct answers can translate into 20 standardised marks.

(It won't be the same for Maths and Reasoning because the pass marks were lower and in Reasoning there were more than 3X as many questions.)

PLEASE KEEP THOSE RAW SCORES COMING IN - especially anyone whose child had a low pass or a narrow fail in Maths.
Someone posted their child age 10, 8 months got 15 in English... 108
Tinkers
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Re: Please keep those raw scores coming in

Post by Tinkers »

Here's an explanation of how standardised scores work.
http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/advice ... xplanation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Marks are not 'added' or 'taken away' as such. Children are compared to other children born in the same month. In same cases that means little difference between scores throughout the age range (so there's not much difference in marks) , in others cases it can make a difference.
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