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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:01 pm 
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Just got Kent results today. Very happy with daughter's marks. We are out of borough. How do I know whether she will be eligible for Dartford Grammar Girls or Wilmington?? Any one her knows the cut off points for last year and what it might be this year please?
Seendy


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Seendy1 wrote:
Just got Kent results today. Very happy with daughter's marks. We are out of borough. How do I know whether she will be eligible for Dartford Grammar Girls or Wilmington?? Any one her knows the cut off points for last year and what it might be this year please?
Seendy


https://www.kent.gov.uk/education-and-children/schools/school-places/admissions-criteria/admissions-criteria-201819

Wilmington Grammar School for Girls has a published admission number (PAN) of 150. Entry to the
school is through the Kent Assessment Procedure.

Children with a statement of Special Educational Need (SEN) or Education Health and Care Plan (EHCP)
which names Wilmington Grammar School for Girls will be admitted and the PAN reduced accordingly.
The remaining places will be allocated to girls assessed suitable for grammar school through the Kent
procedure. If the number of preferences for the school is more than the number of places available, places
will be allocated to eligible girls in the following priority order:
1. Children in Local Authority Care – a child under the age of 18 years for whom the local authority
provides accommodation by agreement with their parents/carers (Section 22 of the Children Act 1989) or
who ceased to be so because they were adopted or who is the subject of a care order under Part IV of the
Act.
2. Siblings in the school - a sister attending WGSG when the child starts. In this context a sister
means a child who lives in the same house, including natural sisters, adopted siblings, stepsisters or foster
sisters. If siblings from multiple births (twins, triplets, etc) apply for a school and the school would reach
it’s PAN after admitting one or more, but before admitting all of those siblings, governors will offer a place
to each of the siblings, even if doing so takes the school above its PAN.
3. Siblings in Wilmington Grammar School for Boys (WGSB) - a brother attending the school when
the child starts. In this context brother means a child who lives in the same house, including natural
brothers or adopted siblings, stepbrothers or foster brothers. If siblings from multiple births (twins, triplets,
etc) apply for a school and the school would reach it’s PAN after admitting one or more, but before
admitting all of those siblings, governors will offer a place to each of the siblings, even if doing so takes
the school above its PAN.
4. Pupil Premium - Students in receipt of Pupil Premium living within 3 miles proximity of the school:
a child is eligible for Pupil Premium where she has been registered for free school meals (FSM) at any
point in the last 6 years. This does not include children who have only been eligible to receive Universal
Infant Free School Meals. Pupil Premium is also afforded to Children in Local Authority Care or Previously
in Local Authority Care, however these children will be prioritised in the relevant criteria above.
5. 1.5 mile proximity –within this criterion children will be ranked according to the distance from their
home to the Wilmington Grammar School for Girls, with those living closest being ranked highest. The
distance is measured between the child’s permanent address and the school in a straight line using the
National Land and Property Gazetteer (NLPG) address point data. Distances are measured from a point
within the child’s home to a similarly defined point within the school as specified by National Land and
Property Gazetteer (NLPG).
6. Governor Places awarded to girls who have shown exceptional performance in the Mathematics
paper of the Kent test - Up to 10% of the PAN (15 places) will be awarded to those children who through
the tests have shown an exceptional performance which places them in the top 15 selective places in
Mathematics. In case of tied scores distance will be used. If in the unlikely event that more than one
applicant has the same distance from home to school, as measured by the Local Authority, then an
independently adjudicated random selection will be applied.
7. Eligible girls who live in the named parishes below (see map attached) –
Dartford Stone Swanscome & Greenhithe
Wilmington Darenth Bean
Hextable Sutton at Hone & Hawley Wrotham
Southfleet Swanley Horton Kirby & South Darenth
Longfield & New Barn Crockenhill Farningham
Fawkham Hartley Eynsford
Ash Cum Ridley Shoreham West Kingsdown
Stanstead Otford Kemsing
Halsted Dunton Green Sevenoaks
Children within this priority area will be ranked according to the distance from their home to the
Wilmington Grammar School for Girls with those living closest being ranked highest. The distance is
measured between the child’s permanent address and the school in a straight using the National Land and
Property Gazetteer (NLPG) address point data. Distances are measured from a point defined as within the child’s home to a point defined as within the school as specified by NLPG. The same address point on the
school site is used for everybody. If in the unlikely event that more than one applicant has the same
distance from home to school, as measured by the Local Authority, then an independently adjudicated
random selection will be applied.
8. All other girls – within this criterion children will be ranked according to the distance from their
home to the Wilmington Grammar School for Girls, with those living closest being ranked highest. The
distance is measured between the child’s permanent address and the school in a straight line using the
National Land and Property Gazetteer (NLPG) address point data. Distances are measured from a point
defined as within the child’s home to a point defined as within the school as specified by NLPG. The same
address point on the school site is used for everybody. If in the unlikely event that more than one
applicant has the same distance from home to school, as measured by the Local Authority, then an
independently adjudicated random selection will be applied.
The school uses measurements provided by the Local Authority and further information on how distances
are calculated including what is regarded as permanent residence and how flats will be treated is available
in the Admissions Booklet provided by the Local Authority.
A waiting list will be maintained up to January 2019 and will be ranked according to the above
oversubscription criteria. The waiting list will be re-ranked every time a child is added.


I guess that the main criterion you would be going for is (6), the 15 Governor Places? You could try asking the school what kind of maths score usually ranks within the top 15 applicants. What did your DD get in the maths element of the Test?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:58 pm 
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Interested in this too.. we are OOC for both so I need to know information on furthest distance for Wilmington and scores for Dartfird girls..


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:48 am 
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Thanks for your reply Toadmum and all the info. She got 133 in Maths- which to me is an awesome score out of 141 but doubt that will put her in the 15 Governors places.

Seendy


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:29 pm 
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Congratulations to your daughter on her maths score Seendy1.

I have always found it difficult to find out previous scores needed for a Governors place at Wilmington. They seem to avoid wanting to offer that information at open evening. They did tell me ( a few years ago) that its the top 15 who want a place at Wilmington and I understand they will move down the list to the next person until they reach 15. This means you probably aren't in competition with the very top maths scorers if they want another school e.g. Dartford. It isn't like Bexley where the top 180 is rigid and if someone doesn't want a Bexley place the list doesn't move down to position 181 etc. I have noticed that Wilmington do say UP TO 10% of PAN so I guess they could choose to offer less.

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