11 Plus Exams Forum

Hi all,
just wondering if it possible to find out how many girls passed this year....I guess I am just worried about getting in to the school we want...My daughter got 420 in the test, which is great, but I don't think the school looks at scores, just at distance....and we live about 9 miles away....
I realise that it is a bit of a difficult question to answer, as it comes down to how many girls in a particular area etc really doesn't it? I just get the vibe from this forum that more girls passed than boys...
Another question is whether more children passed (sorry were deemed suitable for grammar) this year than in previous years?
Wondering....

That was certainly not the case in my DDs school. 22 pupils sat the test, 7 girls and 15 boys, and 14 children passed, 5 girls and 9 boys. This is out of a total of 51 pupils in the year group. My DD got 420 too, which we were delighted about, and rather upset that it has been suggested somewhere on this forum that it was easier to obtain top scores this year. DDs school always get between 12-15 pupils through the 11+, so it was no different this year.

Thanks for the reply Orangebear....
Wasn't aware of the suggestion that it was easier to get 420 this year! That is a bit upsetting...Our DD has always been very bright and a hard worker so it wasn't really a surprise that she did very well...(though we were still worried that something could've 'gone wrong' on the day(s) and finding out she got 420 was thrilling) The Head and my DD's teacher are both very excited by her scores...perhaps it is just because a few of us on this forum know children who got top marks it 'seems' loads of children got them this year?
Congratulations to your DD too

I do envy you that your DD's HT and class teacher were thrilled with her score. Neither of them at my DD's school thought anything out of the ordinary had happened, so I felt I had to mask my excitement at her scores! Furthermore, she was the only child at her school to get 420. Like your DD she has always worked hard, and deserves success.
I do work at the school myself, maybe that had something to do with it! Just waiting for Medway results now! What school are you hoping for?

I'll let you know in a PM
Perhaps it is because you are at the school that they haven't shown their excitement...(though our DD's teacher/HT have only shown their excitement in private with me and DD)
I reckon they are secretly blown away by your DD!
BTW...is it true that 420 scores are the top 5%? Top 5% isn't bad is it?!

orangebear4 wrote:That was certainly not the case in my DDs school. 22 pupils sat the test, 7 girls and 15 boys, and 14 children passed, 5 girls and 9 boys. This is out of a total of 51 pupils in the year group. My DD got 420 too, which we were delighted about, and rather upset that it has been suggested somewhere on this forum that it was easier to obtain top scores this year. DDs school always get between 12-15 pupils through the 11+, so it was no different this year.

Not sure whether you are referring to a thread I started a few days ago or not. I wasn't suggesting that it was "easier" to obtain top scores this year. That would be untrue since there should always be the same number of scores of each level each year [as a proportion of the total Yr 6 Kent population] - that's the way that the standardisation to a normal curve is supposed to work. So 420 is a REALLY good result. I did suggest that moving the test earlier might have meant that girls did better than boys in achieving the top scores because they are more intellectually mature at a younger age. This may be complete rubbish and time will tell. My thinking was prompted by the fact that in my son's primary school class of 22 pupils, with 18 taking the test, 4 girls and 1 boy scored 420. In fact, I have just learned that a fifth girl scored 420 in the class, which is frankly amazing.

420 should be achieved by less than 2% of the population (less than 4% of those taking the test).

420 should be achieved by less than 2% of the population (less than 4% of those taking the test).

Wow...that is pretty cool....Feel rather proud of my little girl

It really is amazing that so many children at your son's school got 420...that is outstanding!
I don't think anyone else at my DD's school got 420 apart from her....I haven't discussed scores with other parents but I get the vibe from the teachers that she is the only one...

Hmm - think I might have been part of that thread too. Like tired dad I can't see why the overall scores should be higher. I can see some reasons why the scores needed to get into super selectives will be slightly higher, but not the overall scores themselves.

In simple terms 4500+ children should pass the exam out of the 11000 or so that took it, either directly or via HT appeal, because that's the number of grammar school places.

travelling man wrote:In simple terms 4500+ children should pass the exam out of the 11000 or so that took it, either directly or via HT appeal, because that's the number of grammar school places.

About 25% of cohort eventually passes, normally more than the number of GS places. Some of the "passers" instead go private, some choose non-selective, and some don't get a place in GS because they fail on oversubscription criteria such as distance.

wonderingmum wrote:Hi all,
just wondering if it possible to find out how many girls passed this year....I guess I am just worried about getting in to the school we want...My daughter got 420 in the test, which is great, but I don't think the school looks at scores, just at distance....and we live about 9 miles away....
I realise that it is a bit of a difficult question to answer, as it comes down to how many girls in a particular area etc really doesn't it? I just get the vibe from this forum that more girls passed than boys...
Another question is whether more children passed (sorry were deemed suitable for grammar) this year than in previous years?
Wondering....

I know TWGS take a certain amount of high scorers from out of area each year, I don't know if you are interested in this school but I'm sure if you went to appeal with a high score you would have a strong case for whatever school you choose.