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Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:20 am
by stroudydad
Guest55 wrote:CGP has obviously made an error stroudydad - that question is not appropriate.

The Primary NC changed about four years ago so some material published earlier than that may have errors. Remember question books may not be written by people who actually know much about Primary maths ...

Algebra can confuse a problem and is not easy to teach properly. Throwing 'x' at a problem usually does not help - many children end up afraid of algebra.
As You know from past discussions I have the greatest respect for your knowledge and skills, however checked with DS2 last night and he is sure a question similar to this type did appear in the Gloucestershire exam last year.

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:26 am
by Guest55
Well then someone should complain as it disadvantages some children.

Bucks has made it clear that content won't go beyond Year 5.

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:36 am
by stroudydad
Guest55 wrote:Well then someone should complain as it disadvantages some children.

Bucks has made it clear that content won't go beyond Year 5.
Can't remember Gloucestershire making anything clear, ever. :lol:

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:47 am
by RedDevil66
Guest55 wrote:Well then someone should complain as it disadvantages some children.

Bucks has made it clear that content won't go beyond Year 5.
Which is quite odd that it appears in a lot of CEM practice questions.

Don't know about anyone else but I can't ever recall teaching this is yr5. Yr 6 yes but not 5

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:51 am
by Guest55
CEM does not produce practice material - clearly the 'other' publishers need to be challenged.

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:08 am
by stroudydad
Guest55 wrote:CEM does not produce practice material - clearly the 'other' publishers need to be challenged.
But they do produce the test... which as has been stated has included such topics:-)

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 am
by Guest55
The Bucks CEM did not have them ... it's down to the LAs who direct CEM.

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:34 am
by stroudydad
Guest55 wrote:The Bucks CEM did not have them ... it's down to the LAs who direct CEM.
That my point though, it does appear in some tests, so you can't just say algebra is not needed which was your assertion.

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:36 am
by Guest55
It should NOT be needed - the question you posted should have been reported.

Who arranges the Gloucester 11+? If its the Grammars then they need to be challenged on fairness.

Re: Simultaneous Equations Questions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:44 am
by stroudydad
The whole system is unfair...