Perception of Gifted and Talented?
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:32 am
Doing the rounds of the secondary schools recently, it was obvious that there was a lot of support for those children that are struggling to reach the required standard at KS3 and this has also been my experience within KS2. Whether it is the correct support, adequate or administered/managed in the correct way is another issue or arguement.
When posing questions about gifted and talented it was all a bit vague? Some said that the teachers assessment from the primary school hilited the gifted and talented, some said it was their SAT results and others were extremely vague and did not give any criteria or explanation as to what they "do" with a gifted and talented pupil let alone how they identify them! When asking primary schools they were also vague in that some said they had to get 5A'S across all 3 subjects and anything below was not good enough, others said it depended on what the average and overall was like in the area whether a 5 was enough. Some secondary schools even said that it was the SAT results that was used for a child to be recognised as G&T and that they could be G&T at PE. How is that measured by SATS I ask myself I was aslo under the impression that not all areas gave the results as 4C, 4B, 4A, 5C, 5B etc I thought that some only said 4 or 5?
When posing the question as to whether their 11+ mark had any bearing it was absolute NO definitely not, we don't even receive their marks. I realise that there can have been coaching in 11+ and therefore maybe this is irrelevant, but is there another argument here? They have had to learn techniques, interpret information etc and is this not a measure of their intelligence
I recently asked my primary school about the National Maths Challenge for Year 6 and was told they did not do it. My son sat this at his previous primary school in Year 5 and those in Year 6 sat it also and he did very well. I thought that all primary schools took part in this challenge on years 5 & 6 and that it was nationwide? I also thought that this could be used as evidence for NAGTY in the future if necessary?
I am not saying that my son is G & T in fact I am sure he is not, but what I am concered about is the fact that I thought I had gathered as much relevant and accurate information as to what my son is undergoing in the education system and how he is measured and what tools are used to measure him, but it appears that I may be under the wrong impression.
Can anyone out there tell me of their understanding concerning CAT tests in primary/secondary schools, the National Maths Challenge, G&T and NAGTY? Look forward to hearing from you.
When posing questions about gifted and talented it was all a bit vague? Some said that the teachers assessment from the primary school hilited the gifted and talented, some said it was their SAT results and others were extremely vague and did not give any criteria or explanation as to what they "do" with a gifted and talented pupil let alone how they identify them! When asking primary schools they were also vague in that some said they had to get 5A'S across all 3 subjects and anything below was not good enough, others said it depended on what the average and overall was like in the area whether a 5 was enough. Some secondary schools even said that it was the SAT results that was used for a child to be recognised as G&T and that they could be G&T at PE. How is that measured by SATS I ask myself I was aslo under the impression that not all areas gave the results as 4C, 4B, 4A, 5C, 5B etc I thought that some only said 4 or 5?
When posing the question as to whether their 11+ mark had any bearing it was absolute NO definitely not, we don't even receive their marks. I realise that there can have been coaching in 11+ and therefore maybe this is irrelevant, but is there another argument here? They have had to learn techniques, interpret information etc and is this not a measure of their intelligence
I recently asked my primary school about the National Maths Challenge for Year 6 and was told they did not do it. My son sat this at his previous primary school in Year 5 and those in Year 6 sat it also and he did very well. I thought that all primary schools took part in this challenge on years 5 & 6 and that it was nationwide? I also thought that this could be used as evidence for NAGTY in the future if necessary?
I am not saying that my son is G & T in fact I am sure he is not, but what I am concered about is the fact that I thought I had gathered as much relevant and accurate information as to what my son is undergoing in the education system and how he is measured and what tools are used to measure him, but it appears that I may be under the wrong impression.
Can anyone out there tell me of their understanding concerning CAT tests in primary/secondary schools, the National Maths Challenge, G&T and NAGTY? Look forward to hearing from you.