Reviews - Completely confused about what to do for the best.
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Reviews - Completely confused about what to do for the best.
I don't know how many times we have changed out minds this week over review.
I'm confused over the point that states if you review and fail and then go to appeal, your appeal is around whether the review was administrated fairly. My question is how would I know?
I have read that in prior years the parents comments have not been considered - how would I know if they had or not?
I have also read that different panels administrate differently - how would I know to argue this later?
I want to go to review but I am not confident that we will succeed if they do not consider the parent comments, which would explain reasons for underperformance in year 5.
We are 15 marks below but last year that would have meant a pass. We have school support and recommendation. Our reasons are that academic ability was held back last year due to severe disruptions in the classroom in staff and pupil behaviour. Progress to the required levels is already well underway in his new class which has support and continuity that was lacking last year.
Help!!! I need to make a decision tonight as the review application has to be submitted tomorrow.
I'm confused over the point that states if you review and fail and then go to appeal, your appeal is around whether the review was administrated fairly. My question is how would I know?
I have read that in prior years the parents comments have not been considered - how would I know if they had or not?
I have also read that different panels administrate differently - how would I know to argue this later?
I want to go to review but I am not confident that we will succeed if they do not consider the parent comments, which would explain reasons for underperformance in year 5.
We are 15 marks below but last year that would have meant a pass. We have school support and recommendation. Our reasons are that academic ability was held back last year due to severe disruptions in the classroom in staff and pupil behaviour. Progress to the required levels is already well underway in his new class which has support and continuity that was lacking last year.
Help!!! I need to make a decision tonight as the review application has to be submitted tomorrow.
Re: Reviews - Completely confused about what to do for the b
Not surprised no one has rushed to reply!
I'm afraid there are no easy answers .........
At appeal the admission authority should explain how their review process met each of the three tests in your particular case. They ought to have evidence that the process as applied to you was (1) fair, (2) consistent & (3) objective. Their case can be questioned and challenged by panel members and appellant.
The onus is on the admission authority to prove its case, it should not be on you to disprove it. In my view it's a high threshold, and it should be quite difficult in practice to prove that a review really was 'fair, consistent & objective' in any particular case.
Having said that, I'm aware that appeal panels in Medway have previously reached different conclusions.
The same thing has happened in Bucks which introduced reviews last year, and different panels are reported to have arrived at different decisions.
You might be interested in this: http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/appeal ... laneous#e9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(Skip the bit about headteacher recommendations, and scroll down to 'Review or Appeal?' There are some differences between Bucks and Medway, but many of the issues will be the same.)
It's only one consideration, but with regard to (b), do you need more time for the academic evidence to materialise? If so, then purely from that point of view, a review might come too early for you.
Hope this helps a little - but I'm afraid whatever you do is a bit of a gamble.
It's a pity they don't do as in Kent where they have a form of review, but don't then attempt to restrict the right to a full and unfettered hearing in front of an independent appeal panel.
I'm afraid there are no easy answers .........
You wouldn't know until the appeal.I'm confused over the point that states if you review and fail and then go to appeal, your appeal is around whether the review was administrated fairly. My question is how would I know?
At appeal the admission authority should explain how their review process met each of the three tests in your particular case. They ought to have evidence that the process as applied to you was (1) fair, (2) consistent & (3) objective. Their case can be questioned and challenged by panel members and appellant.
The onus is on the admission authority to prove its case, it should not be on you to disprove it. In my view it's a high threshold, and it should be quite difficult in practice to prove that a review really was 'fair, consistent & objective' in any particular case.
Having said that, I'm aware that appeal panels in Medway have previously reached different conclusions.
The same thing has happened in Bucks which introduced reviews last year, and different panels are reported to have arrived at different decisions.
You might be interested in this: http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/appeal ... laneous#e9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(Skip the bit about headteacher recommendations, and scroll down to 'Review or Appeal?' There are some differences between Bucks and Medway, but many of the issues will be the same.)
For either a review or an appeal I would expect really strong academic evidence. In your particular case this means ideally (a) evidence of very high achievement prior to year 5, and (b) evidence of rapid and remarkable progress this year.Our reasons are that academic ability was held back last year due to severe disruptions in the classroom in staff and pupil behaviour. Progress to the required levels is already well underway in his new class which has support and continuity that was lacking last year.
It's only one consideration, but with regard to (b), do you need more time for the academic evidence to materialise? If so, then purely from that point of view, a review might come too early for you.
Hope this helps a little - but I'm afraid whatever you do is a bit of a gamble.
It's a pity they don't do as in Kent where they have a form of review, but don't then attempt to restrict the right to a full and unfettered hearing in front of an independent appeal panel.
Etienne
Re: Reviews - Completely confused about what to do for the b
Thanks Etienne.
We are slowly coming to the conclusion that perhaps it is a little early. His Maths is level 5 but his English (reading and writing) is just a 4. although this last few weeks he has produced some great written work at school.
We are slowly coming to the conclusion that perhaps it is a little early. His Maths is level 5 but his English (reading and writing) is just a 4. although this last few weeks he has produced some great written work at school.
Re: Reviews - Completely confused about what to do for the b
To add to the mix I also think that the school you are potentially going to appeal to is a factor. If it is an oversubscribed school then it is not in their interests to prove that the review was faulty and therefore schoolwork can be submitted for consideration. However if the school has vacancies and are keen to fill them then they may be more willing to consider the review as faulty and therefore production of school work is allowed.
So much to consider in a short space of time though.
So much to consider in a short space of time though.
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