Medway Results 2021

[ToadMum]

Thanks for the above nfo..Any idea on the cut-off scores over last few years for these schools...Rainham Mark, Fort Pitt, Chatham, Rochester Grammar Schools

If the criterion for eligibility to apply is just 'deemed Selective', then the actual score, above whatever the minimum required to be deemed Selective, is irrelevant as the oversubscription criteria set by each school are then used for all (eligible) applicants equally.

Looking at the Medway website, it says re the minimum scores to be deemed Selective:

Every year a minimum total weighted score is set to determine the grammar pass mark.

This score is set at 23% of the children in the year group in Medway state primary and junior schools. This changes each year depending on the size of the year group.

The minimum score for this year will not be known until the test has been sat and the scores have been calculated.

The minimum score for the last few years were:

2022 admissions: 487
2021 admissions: 483
2020 admissions: 490. https://www.medway.gov.uk/info/200137/s ... _test_11/6

As your DD has already met the 'eligible to be considered for a place' criterion, it is where she will be ranked by each school - LAC / PLAC, sibling, child of staff member, attending primary school in same MAT, distance from school or whatever, that will determine whether she gets in, not her actual score in the exam above the minimum.

Somewhere on the council/ school website it may give the information in year x, the last girl was admitted under Criterion y, which might give you some idea of her chances.

[olucares]

Thanks for the above nfo..Any idea on the cut-off scores over last few years for these schools...Rainham Mark, Fort Pitt, Chatham, Rochester Grammar Schools

The cut-off scores are irrelevant once a pass has been achieved. It comes down to other admission criteria, mostly distance. If you are ooc, Holcombe Grammar tends to admit ooc, assuming your child is a boy. The other 2 grammars for boys tend to go out just a few miles (under 5 miles).

[ToadMum]

Thanks for the above nfo..Any idea on the cut-off scores over last few years for these schools...Rainham Mark, Fort Pitt, Chatham, Rochester Grammar Schools

The cut-off scores are irrelevant once a pass has been achieved. It comes down to other admission criteria, mostly distance. If you are ooc, Holcombe Grammar tends to admit ooc, assuming your child is a boy. The other 2 grammars for boys tend to go out just a few miles (under 5 miles).

I would assume that the DC was a DD, given that all the schools named are girls only at least up to GCSE?

[reddigarij]

Hi All,

Thanks, very helpful information. Yes, I have a girl and now understand that any mark above minimum is of least priority but the admission criteria would play a key role.
Will review the criteria.

[jnabhishek]

For those schools you just need to have passed and then the admissions criteria of each school applies, which tends to be things like pupil premium, siblings, children of staff, sometimes feeder schools and then most crucially distance.

Thanks for your response, my son December born + we live in WD18 (hertfordshire) outside the catchment (Though we are willing to shift), so its really important to understand the min. scores that listed schools in Medway requires for out of catchment kids. Incase any previous min. admission scores are known esp. for out of catchment kids, it will be helpful ... Thanks!

[hermanmunster]

For those schools you just need to have passed and then the admissions criteria of each school applies, which tends to be things like pupil premium, siblings, children of staff, sometimes feeder schools and then most crucially distance.

Thanks for your response, my son December born + we live in WD18 (hertfordshire) outside the catchment (Though we are willing to shift), so its really important to understand the min. scores that listed schools in Medway requires for out of catchment kids. Incase any previous min. admission scores are known esp. for out of catchment kids, it will be helpful ... Thanks!

I think it has been mentioned above that the only relevant point is to pass the test, after that scores are not an issue - the most crucial thing is distance. you do sound as though you are quite a distance away from the schools? How do you plan to get there?

[ToadMum]

For those schools you just need to have passed and then the admissions criteria of each school applies, which tends to be things like pupil premium, siblings, children of staff, sometimes feeder schools and then most crucially distance.

Thanks for your response, my son December born + we live in WD18 (hertfordshire) outside the catchment (Though we are willing to shift), so its really important to understand the min. scores that listed schools in Medway requires for out of catchment kids. Incase any previous min. admission scores are known esp. for out of catchment kids, it will be helpful ... Thanks!

Each school has its individual admissions policy on its website. This is a legal requirement. If the policy starts off by saying that the baseline requirement is to be deemed 'Selective' in the Medway exam (which would appear to be the case generally in Medway) and then no further mention is made of ranking in score order in any of the oversubscription criteria, then that is what it means - once the DC has passed the exam, their application to the school is ranked by other factors, not their score.

For instance, Holcombe Grammar School's admissions policy for 2022 entry syates:

If the number of applications for admission to the Academy is greater than the Published Admissions Number (PAN) of 150, places will be allocated to students deemed selective in the Medway or Kent test in the following priority order:

1st Looked After Children and all children who have been previously looked after...
2nd Children who, at the time of the admission, have a sibling who attends the Academy
(Holcombe Grammar School)...
3rd Children who attend any of the following Thinking Schools’ Academy Trust Medway
primary schools: The Gordon Children’s Academy, New Horizons Children’s Academy, All
Faiths Children’s Academy, Cedars Children’s Academy...
4th Children of staff employed by the Academy (Holcombe Grammar School)...
5th Child’s health reasons...
6th Children who live closest to the school. Distance will be based on the shortest distance
from home to school, as per the Medway co-ordinated scheme...


So no mention of scote at all as a discriminatory within oversubscription criteria.

(There is also the statement at the end of each criterion, however, that [If the school reaches PAN and becomes oversubscribed within this point in the priorities for allocation, random selection will be used to prioritise applications] . Which rather suggests that if there are, say, 50 places remaining to be allocated by the time the ranking gets to Criterion 6 and 51 applicants remain to be ranked, the boy living 50 miles away stands as much chance of getting in as the one in the same road as the school but not qualifying under any higher criterion).

[jnabhishek]

For those schools you just need to have passed and then the admissions criteria of each school applies, which tends to be things like pupil premium, siblings, children of staff, sometimes feeder schools and then most crucially distance.

Thanks for your response, my son December born + we live in WD18 (hertfordshire) outside the catchment (Though we are willing to shift), so its really important to understand the min. scores that listed schools in Medway requires for out of catchment kids. Incase any previous min. admission scores are known esp. for out of catchment kids, it will be helpful ... Thanks!

Each school has its individual admissions policy on its website. This is a legal requirement. If the policy starts off by saying that the baseline requirement is to be deemed 'Selective' in the Medway exam (which would appear to be the case generally in Medway) and then no further mention is made of ranking in score order in any of the oversubscription criteria, then that is what it means - once the DC has passed the exam, their application to the school is ranked by other factors, not their score.

For instance, Holcombe Grammar School's admissions policy for 2022 entry syates:

If the number of applications for admission to the Academy is greater than the Published Admissions Number (PAN) of 150, places will be allocated to students deemed selective in the Medway or Kent test in the following priority order:

1st Looked After Children and all children who have been previously looked after...
2nd Children who, at the time of the admission, have a sibling who attends the Academy
(Holcombe Grammar School)...
3rd Children who attend any of the following Thinking Schools’ Academy Trust Medway
primary schools: The Gordon Children’s Academy, New Horizons Children’s Academy, All
Faiths Children’s Academy, Cedars Children’s Academy...
4th Children of staff employed by the Academy (Holcombe Grammar School)...
5th Child’s health reasons...
6th Children who live closest to the school. Distance will be based on the shortest distance
from home to school, as per the Medway co-ordinated scheme...


So no mention of scote at all as a discriminatory within oversubscription criteria.

(There is also the statement at the end of each criterion, however, that [If the school reaches PAN and becomes oversubscribed within this point in the priorities for allocation, random selection will be used to prioritise applications] . Which rather suggests that if there are, say, 50 places remaining to be allocated by the time the ranking gets to Criterion 6 and 51 applicants remain to be ranked, the boy living 50 miles away stands as much chance of getting in as the one in the same road as the school but not qualifying under any higher criterion).

Thanks and Much appreciate your response! We are at the momemt staying very far from Medway, though willing to relocate if our son gets place, but if distance is the criteria then the chances are very low...have to evaluate this very keenly while filling CAF. The only hope was to know any previous stat where we could know how far it has gone with distance wise. + how many kids have attained more than 487/passing marks....if there any link where we can refer the previous admission stats of the schools? Kindly suggest.

[hermanmunster]

(There is also the statement at the end of each criterion, however, that [If the school reaches PAN and becomes oversubscribed within this point in the priorities for allocation, random selection will be used to prioritise applications] . Which rather suggests that if there are, say, 50 places remaining to be allocated by the time the ranking gets to Criterion 6 and 51 applicants remain to be ranked, the boy living 50 miles away stands as much chance of getting in as the one in the same road as the school but not qualifying under any higher criterion).

I think what happens is that if there are 50 places and say 60 applicants but for the 50th place there are 2 applicants living at the same distance then they would used random allocation for the last place

[hermanmunster]

Thanks and Much appreciate your response! We are at the momemt staying very far from Medway, though willing to relocate if our son gets place, but if distance is the criteria then the chances are very low...have to evaluate this very keenly while filling CAF. The only hope was to know any previous stat where we could know how far it has gone with distance wise. + how many kids have attained more than 487/passing marks....if there any link where we can refer the previous admission stats of the schools? Kindly suggest.

Where else are you considering?

Sorry I can't find the previous allocations for Medway - it my be worth phoning the education department as they may be able to tell you

PS Have just looked at old posts on this forum:

1) Sir Joseph Williamson's Mathematical School (boys) 2018 Sir Joseph Williamson's Mathematical School
Cut off distance was 6175 metres (by nearest safe walking route).
2) Rainham Mark Grammar School (Mixed) looks like in past years this was about 3-4 miles
3) Holcome Grammar School (Boys) there are mentions of this being up to 20 miles ? Thamesmead in previous years
4) The Howard school can't find any figures

these can all change in any year, on the whole because of housebuilding and people moving nearer the distances tend to shrink