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 Post subject: help with this onePosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:26 pm
hi dearies,
today my son did IPS daily test papers (short pink ones 10 qs per paper) on test no. 6 questoin no.6 there were 2 possibilities of answers and both possiblts. were as choices on answer shhet. so i am posting this one if smone wants to comment on it. we have to find missing word from 2nd group in this one.
FLINT {SNIFF} FLEAS
SPURN { } TREAT

and the choices on answer sheet are TRUSS, SPURT,TRUST,TRIED,PARTS.
well my son worked out TRUSS but right answer is TRUST. its confusing which one to choose. i hope in exams they won't get this type of problem. actually we came across with same sort of problem once before can't remember but i think it was something from IPS again with 2 possible answers DOOR and DOOM. thanks.

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:37 pm

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You sre only to take each letter once - there are not two Ss in the two words SPURN and TREAT whereas the two Fs come one form FLINT and one form FLEAS. Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: help with this onePosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:26 pm

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Anonymous wrote:

FLINT {SNIFF} FLEAS
SPURN { } TREAT.

S comes from 5th on the right, 5th on the right from second group = T
N comes from 4th on left, 4th on the left from second group = R
I comes from 3rd on left, 3rd on left from second group = U
F comes from 1st on left AND 1st on right = S or T
F comes from 1st on left AND 1st on right = S or T

I make that TRUST....AND ..... TRUSS

If its multiple choice then the publishers should only put in one of the answers...

If its standard then the publishers SHOULD not have put the question in...

Patricia

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 Post subject: Re: help with this onePosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:58 pm

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patricia wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

FLINT {SNIFF} FLEAS
SPURN { } TREAT.

S comes from 5th on the right, 5th on the right from second group = T
N comes from 4th on left, 4th on the left from second group = R
I comes from 3rd on left, 3rd on left from second group = U
F comes from 1st on left AND 1st on right = S or T
F comes from 1st on left AND 1st on right = S or T

I make that TRUST....AND ..... TRUSS

Taking my life in my hands here, and daring to disagree with Patricia ...

If the F from FLEAS represents letter 4, then the answer would be "TRUTS". Therefore only the F from FLINT can be correct, making TRUST.

Sally-Anne
(Cowering In A Corner)

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:48 pm

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Anonymous wrote:

FLINT {SNIFF} FLEAS
SPURN { } TREAT

Dear Sally-Anne

You can come out from the corner!

The F can be represented from either side ie 1st letter from Flint OR the First Letter of Fleas. Therefore can be represented by the S or the T.

There is no rule stating that letters can only be used once. There is no rule that says you can use letters more than once. Its just something like .....the middle word has been made using a formula, repeat that formula for the second group.

The 'words' that can be made are therefore TRUSS, TRUST, TRUTS and TRUTT

Patricia

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:04 pm

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Hi Patricia

Now that IS interesting - my son was told that each letter could only be used once!!

I would have to draw the line at TRUTT and TRUTS though.

Funnily enough, Son 2 decided to look at the Tutors CDs today, and this was one of the two types that he lit upon. (I think that means I've had 8 days break from the 11+ in nearly 3 years!!)

And of course he found a glitch in one of the questions - off to the CD section to see if anyone else has posted it ... see you there perhaps?

Sally-Anne

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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:14 pm

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Dear Sally-Anne

I have yet to see any instructions [including NFER] that say you can only use a letter once.

TRUTS and TRUTS....hence the 'word'

Patricia

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 Post subject: help with this onePosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:44 am
Can I have my say, please?

Patricia is right and shame on all of you who doubt her!

Orson

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 Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:08 pm

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My son has had a look at this one and worked it out to be TRUST

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 Post subject: what thenPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:34 pm
so which option are we going to settle for dearies? should i assume there is problem on multiple choice answer sheet.thanks.

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