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 Post subject: Alphabetical orderPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:16 am

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I've never seen anyone post this, so I'm wondering if this is the right course of action, but would it be worth DC to learn the position of each letter of the alphabet (ie A is 1st, B is 2nd, C is 3rd etc) for questions where you have to know which word would be 5th or middle or whatever, in a group of words?

One of the grammar schools we would be looking at is Tiffin, where speed is of the essence, and I thought it would be quicker to learn it by rote than write out the whole alphabet.

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 Post subject: Re: Alphabetical orderPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:13 pm

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I thought about this. It seems a bit onerous to learn the position of every letter, although I agree you wouldn't want to be writing the whole alaphabet out in the exam. I thought we'd learn the position of a number of the letters at various points of the alphabet rather than the whole lot, e.g. A = 1, H = 8, M = 13, R = 18, W = 23. This would help by giving DD a reference point to do those types of questions a bit quicker. For example, if you need to find the 10th letter of alphabet and you know H is 8th then you just need to count on by 2 to get J.

Just a thought!

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 Post subject: Re: Alphabetical orderPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:50 pm

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T stands for 20 was a good one.

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 Post subject: Re: Alphabetical orderPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:54 am

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Copied from an old post of mine...

It is a good idea to play alphabet games with the children, in order to become familar with the position of letters.

I have some plastic letters which I throw to the children one at a time, in random order but in quick succession, they have to make up the alphabet, laid out in an arc. They have to think quickly as to where in the arc the letter goes.

To make it fun [and to amaze their parents at the end of the session ] I teach...

A = 1
E = 5
M = 13 [26 letters, 13 = M for Middle]
T = 20 [ T for Twenty]
Z = 26 [ you would be surprised how many variations I get for the amount of letters in the alphabet!]

What is the 6th letter of the alphabet = 1 after the 5 [E] = F
What is the 19th letter of the alphabet = 1 before 20 [T] = S
5 + 14 = 19 = S

Patricia

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 Post subject: Re: Alphabetical orderPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:39 am

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Thanks so much everyone. Really useful posts. I wonder, also, if putting the alphabet in an arc might also help with anagrams. DS not very keen on those. Sometimes the 'sentence' helps; other times not. We've tried putting them in a circle and that helps sometimes. Perhaps putting them in an arc will get him to look at the letters differently. Who knows!!

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 Post subject: Re: Alphabetical orderPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:05 pm

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Hi

I encourage the children to label the alphabet just as Patricia has pointed out above. So any alphabet question and the first thing they do is mark letters e, m, v and z. This helps enormously. For sticky anagrams, I ask them to put the letters in a circle with any of the vowels in the middle, pick a letter they think the word might begin with and continue with that, always bearing in mind the clue in the question. Many newspapers have this sort of puzzle in the daily papers and you have to make up as many words as possible using the letters on display. A great way to practice and make it fun as well.

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