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 Post subject: Tutors 15 Minute Tests Error?Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:07 am

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Dear Mike,

Please can someone check Level 3 Paper 18 - Question 11-13

The codes dont seem to match>

GROW TOUR GURU ROUT

1452 5463 3465

The second numbers are all 4, and that would mean three words would have the same 2nd letter?

Thanks

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:48 am

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Hi jaysdarlin

In the question, change 1542 to 1452 we have informed elevenplusexams of the change.

Regards

Mike

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:44 pm

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It's us again! Not sure if this is an error - more like we cant figure it out!

15 Minute Tests, Level 4, Paper 7.

Q 12,

XG is to TC

as

EP is to ??

KW
VK
UU
KV - this is the correct answer
LX

One would think it was -4 for both letters,
but E -4 would give you A
and P -4 would give you L

What are we missing?

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:48 pm
I'd say this was a misprint.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:08 pm

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Why do you think it is -4 both sides?

I think this is to do with the number of letters in between.

X to G has 8 letters; T to C has 8 letters.

E to P has 10 letters; K to V has 1o letters between them.

So, I don't think it is a printing error (unless I completely missing something).

Gilly

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:12 pm

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Oh my word - I have never come across something like that before.

Gilly, you should become a member of MENSA.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:16 pm

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I get the same answer - AL, so this is a misprint, unless Mike comes along to enlighten us further!

These papers were only published this summer, and all new papers have an error rate of around 5%. As downloads, these papers can be corrected very quickly. It is rather more embarrassing when the tests are on paper with a print run of thousands!

I personally debugged the Level 3 papers, and even just doing those 20 papers was quite difficult, because the numbers and letters do start to swim before your eyes after a while! I think I missed one bug, which has since been corrected.

Sara, the Level 4s are probably well above the standard required by most tests and areas, so do use them judiciously.

Sally-Anne

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:21 pm

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Thanks Sally Anne

We are only doing them once every few days - and thats only one paper,

he can take as long as he likes
can miss out ones that are ridiculously hard

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:45 pm

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A good move Sara.

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:26 pm

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Oh my word - I have never come across something like that before.

Really?

Keeping the point of whether that particular question is correct or not to one side, in the real exam papers we would expect to have all correct and fully verified questions (and answers).

In that case, what do the children do if they get one such question? Shouldn't we prepare them to switch to a different logic if the obvious logic fails to find the answer in the answer sheet?

Gilly

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