Wallington girls results out today
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Re: Wallington girls results out today
thank you diy mum
Re: Wallington girls results out today
Agree 'what happened' and 'diy mum' - there is still is alot of confusion and misinformation doing the rounds.
I've given up trying to explain now though and, quite franky, I would rather go and bash my head against a brick wall!!
I've given up trying to explain now though and, quite franky, I would rather go and bash my head against a brick wall!!
Re: Wallington girls results out today
The point is that Wallington and Nonsuch will each send to the council a list of potential offers to people who nominated them on their forms, without knowing how you ranked them. If both of them can make offers, the council will consult your preferences to determine which of them you want, and the other place will be allocated to the next person on that school's list. As DIY Mum3 says, "List the schools in the true order that you prefer them and you can't go wrong."
Re: Wallington girls results out today
The admissions process always causes great confusion partly because we consider it from our point of view - a list of preferences - rather than what actually happens.
As I understand it this is broadly how it goes:
Round 1
School A and B say - these are our top 200 choices of child to come here (by exam or distance or whatever criteria)
Child 1 put school A first school B second - Is in the top 200 for both schools, is allocated school A and is removed from the process
Child 2 Put school B first, and school A second. Not included in school B's top 200, but is in School A's top 200 so gets allocated at the moment to school A. Remains in the process.
Child 3 Put school B first, school A second. Is in the top 200 of both, school B takes preference and school A's offered place gets automatically rejected and put back into the pot. Child removed from the process
Child 4 Put school B first, and school A second. Not included in either top 200, Gets school lower down their list. Remains in the process.
Round 2
School A has not filled their places because Child 3 was offered a higher preference place. They offer their 201'st place. This is offered to Child 4, but child 4 still remains in the process.
School B has a simlar issue with Child 1 and offers its 201st place which goes to child 4 (as luck would have it!)
Child 4 has now been allocated their first choice and is removed from the process and their place at School A is refected on their behalf.
Round 3
School A still need to allocate all their places and they continue offering places down their list until they have..
Schools are removed from the process once they have allocated all their places.
Children are removed from the process as soon as they have their first choice or at the point when there are no schools left in the process.
IT MUST BE A NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
As I understand it this is broadly how it goes:
Round 1
School A and B say - these are our top 200 choices of child to come here (by exam or distance or whatever criteria)
Child 1 put school A first school B second - Is in the top 200 for both schools, is allocated school A and is removed from the process
Child 2 Put school B first, and school A second. Not included in school B's top 200, but is in School A's top 200 so gets allocated at the moment to school A. Remains in the process.
Child 3 Put school B first, school A second. Is in the top 200 of both, school B takes preference and school A's offered place gets automatically rejected and put back into the pot. Child removed from the process
Child 4 Put school B first, and school A second. Not included in either top 200, Gets school lower down their list. Remains in the process.
Round 2
School A has not filled their places because Child 3 was offered a higher preference place. They offer their 201'st place. This is offered to Child 4, but child 4 still remains in the process.
School B has a simlar issue with Child 1 and offers its 201st place which goes to child 4 (as luck would have it!)
Child 4 has now been allocated their first choice and is removed from the process and their place at School A is refected on their behalf.
Round 3
School A still need to allocate all their places and they continue offering places down their list until they have..
Schools are removed from the process once they have allocated all their places.
Children are removed from the process as soon as they have their first choice or at the point when there are no schools left in the process.
IT MUST BE A NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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London_Mum
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Re: Wallington girls results out today
Each schools ranks every child who has applied to them (and in the case of grammar schools - who has also passed the test) against their admissions criteria and tells that child's local council whether or not they can offer the child a place.
At this stage, some children will have 1 offer, some will have 4 or 5 potential offers and some will have none.
The councils then compare the 'yes' lists from all schools with the forms the parents have filled in.
All the children who appear on the 'yes' lists for 4 or 5 schools only get to keep one offer - the highest ranked school out of all the schools that have said yes to them.
The council declines the surplus offers these children have received which creates room in the system for more children to go on the 'yes' lists.
Once this room in the system is confirmed, some children offered their 3rd or 4th choice now move up the 'yes' list for their 2nd or 1st choice instead so the council accepts that offer for the child and declines the original offer freeing up yet more room on the 'yes' lists of other schools.
And the process goes on and on until each child only has a maximum of one offer each at the school they ranked most highly out of all of the 'yes' lists they've featured on.
Putting a school as your first choice therefore has absolutely no influence at all on your chances of featuring on a particular ‘yes’ list since the lists are totally governed by admission criteria (pass mark, distance, siblings etc).
The preference system only exists to instruct the council which offers to decline on your behalf should your child be accepted at more than one school.
At this stage, some children will have 1 offer, some will have 4 or 5 potential offers and some will have none.
The councils then compare the 'yes' lists from all schools with the forms the parents have filled in.
All the children who appear on the 'yes' lists for 4 or 5 schools only get to keep one offer - the highest ranked school out of all the schools that have said yes to them.
The council declines the surplus offers these children have received which creates room in the system for more children to go on the 'yes' lists.
Once this room in the system is confirmed, some children offered their 3rd or 4th choice now move up the 'yes' list for their 2nd or 1st choice instead so the council accepts that offer for the child and declines the original offer freeing up yet more room on the 'yes' lists of other schools.
And the process goes on and on until each child only has a maximum of one offer each at the school they ranked most highly out of all of the 'yes' lists they've featured on.
Putting a school as your first choice therefore has absolutely no influence at all on your chances of featuring on a particular ‘yes’ list since the lists are totally governed by admission criteria (pass mark, distance, siblings etc).
The preference system only exists to instruct the council which offers to decline on your behalf should your child be accepted at more than one school.
