If your DD sat stage 2 of the Tiffin Girls' School exam
Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:13 pm
At the beginning of March, 180 girls are offered places by their borough for entry to The Tiffin Girls’ School year 7 in September. If you applied online and live in a London borough, the results are usually available online from 5pm that evening. The next day, the school will email Stage Two test results to parents of girls who have not been offered a higher preference school and are on the waiting list.
See also:
The Tiffin Girls’ School Admissions Process
Admission to Kingston Borough Secondary Schools Coordinated Admissions
If you applied from within the school’s designated area, but outside Kingston, read the secondary school application guidance on the website of the area you live in to see what your local borough or council expects you to do to stay on a waiting list. Some areas automatically keep you on the waiting list for schools you ranked as a higher preference than the one you have been offered. Others can require you to notify them.
How long will it take my daughter to get to TGS by public transport?
On TFL's journey planner http://www.tfl.gov.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; put your postcode as the starting point and the school's postcode KT2 5PL as the destination. Set the arrival time to 08:15 on a school day to allow a small buffer and see how long the journey is likely to take in normal circumstances.
Is it a journey you would be happy to do? Remember that there are plenty of meetings, concerts, drama productions and school events you should attend to support your child and her school.
My daughter has been offered a TGS place. What next?
If your daughter is offered a place you want, complete the acceptance procedure.
If your daughter is offered a place you definitely don't want, please decline it swiftly.
My daughter has been offered a TGS place, but we're undecided. What next?
(a) Some families decline because they realise the journey to TGS would be ridiculous and/or they have an alternative they prefer.
(b) Some go on the waiting list for a state school that makes more sense; they're lucky enough to get an offer they prefer in round two of another school's offers and then decline TGS.
(c) Some who didn't get a first round offer from their preferred independent school are offered a space in the next round from its waiting list (perhaps triggered by a decline from someone who chose TGS instead). They accept it and release the TGS space.
(d) Those who hold offers from one or more fee-paying schools, as well as TGS, are liable for a booking deposit, followed closely by a demand for a hefty chunk of fees. Transferring hard cash encourages clarity of thinking. Time to decide!
In all of the above scenarios, considerate families decline their unwanted state school places ASAP and ensure that both the borough and the school are notified formally that the place can be offered to the next person on the list.
My daughter has been allocated a school we ranked as a higher preference on our common application form. We've changed our mind and would love her to join TGS if possible. What next?
Some are disappointed when offered whatever school they originally listed as a higher preference on the common application form. They suspect their daughter’s TGS score would have been high enough (or very near it) to receive an offer. They ask their borough / the school to add them to the waiting list for TGS. A girl whose score is higher than the score of those who are currently on the waiting list, will jump to the top of the queue and may be offered the very next available space.
My daughter really wanted a TGS place, but has not been offered one. What next?
If the email from the school gives you a score, but not your ranked position on the waiting list, put a reminder in your calendar to contact the school at the appropriate time - typically after Easter - for further information.
As families decline offers they no longer want, places become available. Once the school has a formal record that a space has been declined, they can contact the next person on the waiting list. Reading through this forum, you'll see that the first phone calls to the waiting list typically happen towards the end of March.
Things go quiet over Easter, but in the cold light of day interesting things happen in the background. Don't abandon hope yet.
1. If your daughter scored just (e.g. one or two marks) below the cut off score published in your letter, take a deep breath, cross your fingers and hold on. Ask to remain on the waiting list for TGS. Accept the next best offer so you remain in the system and have a guaranteed place - somewhere - for September. If things change and you are offered a place at TGS, please swiftly decline the unwanted place at the school you accepted originally.
SVE posted in a previous year that the following formula is a useful way to guesstimate approximate rank:
=1400*(1-NORMDIST(SCORE,200,25,TRUE)) in Excel is your friend (if you guesstimate the std deviation to be 25)... give approx rank.
It's worth trying as a way to get your head around where you stand.
Don't worry about whether your child will be able for the school. Anyone who is offered a place should be capable of keeping up, unless it took vast amounts of effort to the exclusion of everything else for years. If the pace proves too fast, it's always easier to find a space at a less selective school.
If you'd like to read more about this, try http://headguruteacher.com/2013/07/17/a ... ell-curve/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Read all the way to the bottom of it - the regression analysis is interesting.
2. If your daughter really wanted a place, but has a score that clearly is not borderline, make peace with the fact that you have no realistic chance of being offered a TGS place and move on. You may ask to remain on the waiting list, but you MUST also accept an alternative school offer, otherwise you risk not having any school place in September.
Appealing is an option to consider, but successful TGS appeals seem to be exceedingly rare, so it's unwise to pin your hopes and dreams on it.
Appeals data from previous years - your mileage may vary!
This post is already long. You’ll find data from previous years further down this thread. Keep reading.
Comment
I compiled this post to help those who may be going through the process for the first time. There's plenty to read and consider. Using the latest information is advisable; it’s essential to follow the links and do your own reading. Good luck. Fear not.
The school runs many productions, concerts, events and trips. You can spot them on the school calendar and find out more on the school’s twitter page or here. If you live too far away from the school to take full advantage of the many opportunities, you’re definitely short-changing your daughter’s experience.
Finally, knowing the scores of people who got a waiting list place quite late in the day offers hope to the next group. If you can share the final cut off score of the last girl admitted to year 7 (by the end of year 7), please post it stating which year, or PM it to me or a moderator so this can be updated. Having these numbers would be particularly useful for those who sat the test in year 6 and wish to apply for in-year vacancies later. Having done the test once, you are only eligible to apply to TGS for in-year admission before Sixth Form if your daughter's score - when she sat the test in year 6 - was equal to or higher than that of the last girl admitted to year 7 in the cohort you wish to join. http://www.tiffingirls.kingston.sch.uk/ ... -Year.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Source: https://www.tiffingirls.org/getattachme ... 2.pdf.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Only if you have applied to The Tiffin Girls’ School and have not achieved a place at The Tiffin Girls’ School or a school that you listed as a higher preference on your application will you be sent your Stage Two test results on 2 March 2022, after National Offer Day.
We do not mark the Stage Two Test papers of those who have not applied to the school.
See also:
The Tiffin Girls’ School Admissions Process
Admission to Kingston Borough Secondary Schools Coordinated Admissions
If you applied from within the school’s designated area, but outside Kingston, read the secondary school application guidance on the website of the area you live in to see what your local borough or council expects you to do to stay on a waiting list. Some areas automatically keep you on the waiting list for schools you ranked as a higher preference than the one you have been offered. Others can require you to notify them.
How long will it take my daughter to get to TGS by public transport?
On TFL's journey planner http://www.tfl.gov.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; put your postcode as the starting point and the school's postcode KT2 5PL as the destination. Set the arrival time to 08:15 on a school day to allow a small buffer and see how long the journey is likely to take in normal circumstances.
Is it a journey you would be happy to do? Remember that there are plenty of meetings, concerts, drama productions and school events you should attend to support your child and her school.
My daughter has been offered a TGS place. What next?
If your daughter is offered a place you want, complete the acceptance procedure.
If your daughter is offered a place you definitely don't want, please decline it swiftly.
My daughter has been offered a TGS place, but we're undecided. What next?
(a) Some families decline because they realise the journey to TGS would be ridiculous and/or they have an alternative they prefer.
(b) Some go on the waiting list for a state school that makes more sense; they're lucky enough to get an offer they prefer in round two of another school's offers and then decline TGS.
(c) Some who didn't get a first round offer from their preferred independent school are offered a space in the next round from its waiting list (perhaps triggered by a decline from someone who chose TGS instead). They accept it and release the TGS space.
(d) Those who hold offers from one or more fee-paying schools, as well as TGS, are liable for a booking deposit, followed closely by a demand for a hefty chunk of fees. Transferring hard cash encourages clarity of thinking. Time to decide!
In all of the above scenarios, considerate families decline their unwanted state school places ASAP and ensure that both the borough and the school are notified formally that the place can be offered to the next person on the list.
My daughter has been allocated a school we ranked as a higher preference on our common application form. We've changed our mind and would love her to join TGS if possible. What next?
Some are disappointed when offered whatever school they originally listed as a higher preference on the common application form. They suspect their daughter’s TGS score would have been high enough (or very near it) to receive an offer. They ask their borough / the school to add them to the waiting list for TGS. A girl whose score is higher than the score of those who are currently on the waiting list, will jump to the top of the queue and may be offered the very next available space.
My daughter really wanted a TGS place, but has not been offered one. What next?
If the email from the school gives you a score, but not your ranked position on the waiting list, put a reminder in your calendar to contact the school at the appropriate time - typically after Easter - for further information.
As families decline offers they no longer want, places become available. Once the school has a formal record that a space has been declined, they can contact the next person on the waiting list. Reading through this forum, you'll see that the first phone calls to the waiting list typically happen towards the end of March.
Things go quiet over Easter, but in the cold light of day interesting things happen in the background. Don't abandon hope yet.
1. If your daughter scored just (e.g. one or two marks) below the cut off score published in your letter, take a deep breath, cross your fingers and hold on. Ask to remain on the waiting list for TGS. Accept the next best offer so you remain in the system and have a guaranteed place - somewhere - for September. If things change and you are offered a place at TGS, please swiftly decline the unwanted place at the school you accepted originally.
SVE posted in a previous year that the following formula is a useful way to guesstimate approximate rank:
=1400*(1-NORMDIST(SCORE,200,25,TRUE)) in Excel is your friend (if you guesstimate the std deviation to be 25)... give approx rank.
It's worth trying as a way to get your head around where you stand.
Don't worry about whether your child will be able for the school. Anyone who is offered a place should be capable of keeping up, unless it took vast amounts of effort to the exclusion of everything else for years. If the pace proves too fast, it's always easier to find a space at a less selective school.
If you'd like to read more about this, try http://headguruteacher.com/2013/07/17/a ... ell-curve/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Read all the way to the bottom of it - the regression analysis is interesting.
2. If your daughter really wanted a place, but has a score that clearly is not borderline, make peace with the fact that you have no realistic chance of being offered a TGS place and move on. You may ask to remain on the waiting list, but you MUST also accept an alternative school offer, otherwise you risk not having any school place in September.
Appealing is an option to consider, but successful TGS appeals seem to be exceedingly rare, so it's unwise to pin your hopes and dreams on it.
Appeals data from previous years - your mileage may vary!
This post is already long. You’ll find data from previous years further down this thread. Keep reading.
Comment
I compiled this post to help those who may be going through the process for the first time. There's plenty to read and consider. Using the latest information is advisable; it’s essential to follow the links and do your own reading. Good luck. Fear not.
The school runs many productions, concerts, events and trips. You can spot them on the school calendar and find out more on the school’s twitter page or here. If you live too far away from the school to take full advantage of the many opportunities, you’re definitely short-changing your daughter’s experience.
Finally, knowing the scores of people who got a waiting list place quite late in the day offers hope to the next group. If you can share the final cut off score of the last girl admitted to year 7 (by the end of year 7), please post it stating which year, or PM it to me or a moderator so this can be updated. Having these numbers would be particularly useful for those who sat the test in year 6 and wish to apply for in-year vacancies later. Having done the test once, you are only eligible to apply to TGS for in-year admission before Sixth Form if your daughter's score - when she sat the test in year 6 - was equal to or higher than that of the last girl admitted to year 7 in the cohort you wish to join. http://www.tiffingirls.kingston.sch.uk/ ... -Year.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;