Please explain this scenario

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mightymom
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Please explain this scenario

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Child 1 passed Wally Boys
Wally goes first on CAF form ( as not selected in stage 2 for Wilson & SGS)

Child 2 passed Wally, SGS, Wilson
CAF Order 1.Wilson 2.SGS 3. Wally

Both Child1 & Child2 are out of catchment.

Are the chances of getting Wallington School more for Child 1 than Child2 because it was listed top on the CAF form? Please help me understand.
scary mum
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Re: Please explain this scenario

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Both children will get the highest placed school they are eligible for. Please look on your local authority website for information about the Equal Preference system. Schools do not know where you place them.
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tiffinboys
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Re: Please explain this scenario

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If child 2 is not successful for Wilson and Sutton Grammar (the higher preferences), he will get Wally boys before child 1, as his score is higher than child 1 in SET.
Oneoftwothings
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Re: Please explain this scenario

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It will depend on the score - the likelihood is that child 2’s SET score is higher than child 1’s (unless child 1 really messed up stage 2 but did really well in SET). If child 2 misses out on pref 1 and 2 because stage 2 scores weren’t as high as others who put those schools down, child 2 will get his 3rd preference over child 1’s 1st preference if his score is higher.
streathammum
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Re: Please explain this scenario

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If Child 1's Wallington score is lower than Child 2's Wallington score, then Child 2 will have priority over Child 1 for a place at Wallington. If Child 2's score is good enough to be offered either Wilsons or SGS then his Wallington score becomes irrelevant. If Child 2 doesn't get an offer for either Wilsons or SGS then he will be offered a place at Wallington ahead of Child 1, even though Child 1 put Wallington at the top of the CAF.

You can't play the system by ordering your choices in any particular way. You can't leapfrog people by putting a school above them on the CAF. You can't increase your chances of being offered a particular school by not listing any others on your CAF.
tiffinboys
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Re: Please explain this scenario

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Child 1 score in SET is lower than child 2. There are no ifs or buts.
Moon unit
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Re: Please explain this scenario

Post by Moon unit »

You are not alone in finding the equal preference system on the CAF difficult to understand.
I have friends who are teachers who believe that putting a school you sort of want and feel pretty sure your child will get a place at above the school you really want is the sensible thing to do.
You must fill in the CAF with your true order of preference and include within that list one school that your child is very likely to get a place at and you would be happy with.
There is no point for instance filling all places with grammar options unless you are certain your child is going to get a place at one of them and the journey is acceptable.
Last year there was a parent who posted on here whose child got a place at a grammar a very long commute away and the couldn’t afford the train ticket.
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