Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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Marija
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

Post by Marija »

Excellent analysis! Thank you very much!

Does anyone know when Sutton 11+ results are announced?

Oh, it literally says 16 Dec in the first post! Sorry! New here.
dh28
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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Adding some WCGS data for boys as well

2021 Entry
No of students passed: 1005
Pass marks: 213.9
Lowest Marks: ?
Highest marks: ?

2020 Entry
No of students passed: 978
Pass marks: 218.5
Lowest Marks: 205.02 (This seems to be lower than pass marks, but it is what the WCGS school have released, see sources below)
Highest marks: 246.57

2019 Entry
No of students passed: 949
Pass marks: 215.5
Lowest Marks: 216.11
Highest marks: 245.42

2018 Entry
No of students passed: 992
Pass marks: 215
Lowest Marks: 216.07
Highest marks: 250.80

2017 Entry
No of students passed: 879
Pass marks: 214
Lowest Marks: 215.12
Highest marks: ?

2016 Entry
No of students passed: ?
Pass marks: ?
Lowest Marks: 216.87
Highest marks: ?

Sources:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ng-1441567" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ng-1640251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Notes:

The above includes the lowest offer made into the beginning of each academic year (as opposed to 'upto' the beginning of each academic year), because the WCGS says
...each year in September there are normally at least one or 2 vacancies that require filling as boys do not attend on the first day/couple of days into the new academic year & subsequently decline their offer a place at Wallington County Grammar School.
WCGS also do not release any ranking information via WhatDoTheyKnow because:
Once the Selective Eligibility Test is run, parents will know if they pass the test or not, so that they may list, or not, Wallington County Grammar School as a preference on their Common Application Form. Once parents submit their CAF to their local authorities, our school will provide the local authority within the next few months with a listing of students who can be considered in each admission band, but once parents are made offers of schools from their local authorities on National Offer Day each year (on 1st March) we are provided with an alphabetical list of students being offered a place in our school, SET score at this time is not shown and therefore it is almost impossible to find out the information you are asking for I'm afraid.
Waitlists

Waitlist movement of around 40 students seen in last few years on this forum. There is an outstanding FOI request by someone for waitlist movement which should provide precise numbers:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... n_waitlist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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gg234
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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The following link might be useful for cut off marks

http://www.nonsuchschool.org/uploads/as ... scores.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
dh28
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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gg234 wrote:The following link might be useful for cut off marks

http://www.nonsuchschool.org/uploads/as ... scores.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The above is very useful information for cut off marks for admissions to girls' schools, this thread is discussing similar information for boys' schools.
Gabriel
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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But the marks means nothing to me, I don't know how much marks my son got...
dh28
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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Gabriel wrote:But the marks means nothing to me, I don't know how much marks my son got...
Correct, the marks in link given in the above post is for girls only. Boys are not given their marks if they pass Stage 2. You can only make an educated guess of the actual outcome on the National offer day.
gg234 wrote:The following link might be useful for cut off marks

http://www.nonsuchschool.org/uploads/as ... scores.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Marija
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

Post by Marija »

dh28 wrote:
Gabriel wrote:But the marks means nothing to me, I don't know how much marks my son got...
Correct, the marks in link given in the above post is for girls only. Boys are not given their marks if they pass Stage 2. You can only make an educated guess of the actual outcome on the National offer day.
gg234 wrote:The following link might be useful for cut off marks

http://www.nonsuchschool.org/uploads/as ... scores.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
ERRR, boys never get their mark, or until they get the Stage 2 pass mark?
dh28
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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In the last two years, the results of stage 2 have been sent out usually after 1pm by SGS and early afternoon by Wilsons:

2019:
https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum ... 30&t=59365" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2018:
https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum ... 0&start=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
streathammum
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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I think boys are told their mark if they don't qualify, along with the pass mark so they can see how close they came. If they pass they are not told their mark.
Gabriel
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Re: Stage 2 results: what are my chances? Wilson vs SGS data

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SGS FAQ said the result is no later than end of tomorrow.
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