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bamze
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Post by bamze »

thanks a lot for your oppinion,it is good to have someone with wish to help,and yes they have got 259 children passed the exam,the last plase is offered to child on 222 place by distanse and we are not on bad place in waiting list.I hope the appeal will going to work for as.
Thanks again
Snowdrops
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Post by Snowdrops »

Is there nothing else you can appeal on Bamze?

Something like their speciality subject is what matches your dd's area of achievement?

Are the out of school activities on offer something which cannot be found at another school?

That sort of thing is what they're looking for.
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bamze
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Post by bamze »

Thanks Snowdrops,their speciality subject is science and she is keen on it and she is naturaly gifted in mats I hope that is going to work
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Post by hermanmunster »

Snowdrops is right - you have to find some positive reasons why this school is the right school for your child.
bamze
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Post by bamze »

I have done so, I have just looking for some more extra helpfull facts,
I am absolutly sure that the positive way is the best thing,all the children deserve good standart of education,thanks a lot
Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

Not really much to add, bamze, as the others have already given you such good advice.
I forgot to mention that she was level 5 last year in her optional SAT-s and her teacher predicted level 5a this year in all subjects
I'm afraid general academic ability isn't going to help your case at all - unless you're going to try and argue that she was expected to score even more highly than she did, and should have been in the "top 20." You would probably need school support for this argument, an excellent NVR test score from school (your school may or may not do CATs which include NVR), and evidence of extenuating circumstances to explain a relative "underperformance".

Otherwise, the only academic evidence that will help your case is, for example, where you can match a subject your daughter excels at with something the grammar school specialises in.
I am wondering is it sutable to say that the criteria is not much fair?
I agree with what Herman said above. Challenging the admissions policy because you don't like it won't, I'm afraid, get you anywhere.

For an oversubscription appeal you must focus on why your daughter needs a place, avoid generalisations such as "all children deserve a good standard of education" (however true! :lol:), be very specific, and, wherever possible, back up what you say with hard evidence.

You've already seen examples of specific reasons in the Q&As:
* It’s the catchment school.
* Although not in catchment you live very close to the school.
* Getting to any suitable alternative school would be logistically difficult (you would have to prove this, and I think the degree of inconvenience would have to be very considerable indeed).
* There is a sibling already there.
* Other family members are attending or have attended the school (perhaps not a strong point but worth a mention).
* There are strong educational reasons (I don’t mean a preference for a type of school such as a grammar school – I mean something specific on offer at this particular school which is not available at any suitable alternative. You would need to prove why this is so crucial).
* There are strong medical or social reasons why your child needs to attend this particular school. These are often the most compelling reasons, but you will need proof, and you will need to demonstrate convincingly why only this school is the solution.
Snowdrops' suggestion is a good one. If the GS specialises in science, and this is one of your daughter's strengths, can you put together some evidence?
e.g. -
1. A letter from school saying what a talented scientist she is, predicting 5a, and saying that a place at the GS will really help her fulfil her potential.
2. Science exercise book - full of excellent marks and comments.
3. Are you able to tell the panel in detail about science museums she has visited, science programmes she watches on TV?

Good luck
Etienne
bamze
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Post by bamze »

Thank you very much Etienne,
Your advise help me to clear my ideas and I am very grateful to you, to hermanmunster and to Snowdrop.

thanks again
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