I have just recieved the Clerks's notes - which are interesting reading. They seem riddled with errors and omissions.
So, for example, a section of informal chat at the begining while they were photocopying notes is included, however (just a section) while significant points are omitted. Equally they spell my name incorrectly, change our job titles, have added text which we just don't recognise. Rather strange!!
Do you know if we can ask for corrections to the notes?
Neither DW nor I took notes - mainly because we were so nervous.
Our experience was there was nothing in the notes at all other than unanimous decision= no, we tried to make an issue of this fact to no avail. At the time, and probably still today I felt that although the appeals code says the notes do not need to be verbatim, I believe they should be and open to debate where one party feels there are inaccuracies. The appeals process is supposed to be a legal process, and yet there are no controls effectively in place to enforce it as such, and this is wrong in my view. Unfortunately the ombudsman's hands are tied, he can only ensure that procedures were followed, and cannot apparently change a decision, also wrong in my view. In fact the ombudsman's office actually failed to understand the points we were making anyway so you end up feeling like you are banging your heads against a wall. Our clerk openly admitted she hadn't the time to write the notes up until well afer the decision was reached and delivered to us as she had so many appeals and not enough time.
Appeals are often handled well, but so much of the time they are not, and it is simply not fair.
Oh and by the way, it seems to be absolutely impossible to leave the forum