Appeal for ahs

[Sally-Anne]

Thank you - we have received the email now.

Basically the Review panel form completely blank

All the decision forms are blank apart from the child's details in the first box and the VRTS scores in box B6. It is not entirely clear why they are being included in the Appeal documentation, to be honest. The chances are that these forms were used to record part or all of the, now destroyed, Clerk's notes. Make of that what you will ...

date of meeting has been crossed out and new one inserted by hand

I think this has to be a question for the Presenting Officer at the appeal. Why was the date crossed out?

the spread sheet includes typed clerks notes saying academically good , low scores , potential progress questioned when nothing on panel meeting sheet .

Does the Head's recommendation appear on the spreadsheet, or does that also show "zero"?

According to school case a special panel should have met before SRP and their notes should have been given to SRP is this right or am I mistaken. There is nothing to suggest there was special panel or their notes.

The Special Access Panel met before the 11+ tests took place, and considered cases for special adjustments. Many of those cases will have been supported by an EP report. That is entirely separate from the Review Process, which took place some months later.

The Review Panels were able to access the specialist help of an EP if they felt that they needed it, but otherwise only case that were originally presented to the SAP will have automatically had an EP in attendance.

[miltonkeynesmum]

Thank you much clearer about EP now. Head teachers recommendation classed as 0:0 is this error or could I argue that most of academic evidence not considered as no notes therefore Not FCO ?

[Sally-Anne]

Head teachers recommendation classed as 0:0 is this error or could I argue that most of academic evidence not considered as no notes therefore Not FCO ?

Hmmm. If the HTR was made with hindsight (I think I asked about that earlier?), it might conceivably appear as 0:0, but once again I wonder what is going on!

On the decision form the HTR box states (and I quote the exact wording, warts and all):

Head teachers recommendation and attitude (where stated in advance)

This really does beg the question of how much importance Review Panels gave to any HTR made with the benefit of hindsight.

It is also worth mentioning that it is quite unusual for a MK Head (assuming your child attends a school in MK) to complete an Appeal/Selection Review form at all. Our experience is that MK Heads are generally discouraged from supporting appeals in other counties.

[miltonkeynesmum]

Thank you I will mention that.

Just thinking how to conclude case. Was wondering if should include something about principles of natural justice ie transparency and that justice should not only be done but be seen to be done and that review as a quasi judicial process failed in this as there was no evidence from panel how decisions were reached. Don't know how to phrase it any suggestions would be welcome .

[miltonkeynesmum]

Hi Sally-Anne and Etienne had appeal today was very nervous as am not most eloquent speaker, also other half couldn't make it as he was short staffed well that's his excuse anyway! Appeal scheduled for 11.10 . Got there10.30 whole of council locked as had fire scare and staff outside. So we were running late thankfully not to late went into my hearing 12 .00 came out at 2.05 !

All I want to say is Thank You all soooooo much. I couldn't have got through today without your comprehensive and no nonsense advice. I asked all questions you advised at one point PO had to run out to get information. You'll be interested to know that according to AA public consultations have an expiry date on them so after certain date they can't be viewed so I did argue that as it was a public document it should be available or at least recorded somewhere ( I hope that was correct). Another point of interest was that I had email telling me I had to go for review and couldn't wait until allocation and then appeal this sent PO in a tizzy but according to AA up until 7 December (my email was dated 7 December ) apparently staff were giving out incorrect advice.

Followed your advice had questions typed and copies for all. That was really helpful also they can refer to them if they need to. Spent 10 mins on academic ability . Whatever happens with your help I know did my best. So once again thank you

[Sally-Anne]

So we were running late thankfully not to late went into my hearing 12 .00 came out at 2.05 !

My goodness, that was a marathon! Well done for getting through it.

All I want to say is Thank You all soooooo much. I couldn't have got through today without your comprehensive and no nonsense advice.

It is our pleasure.

I asked all questions you advised at one point PO had to run out to get information.

Well, we're keeping them fit, at least.

You'll be interested to know that according to AA public consultations have an expiry date on them so after certain date they can't be viewed

I am indeed most interested in that, given that on the BCC website there are summaries of 297 consultations that date back to September 2005 ...

Disappearing clerks' notes, consultations withdrawn from public view, smoke and mirrors ...

I did argue that as it was a public document it should be available or at least recorded somewhere ( I hope that was correct).

You may draw your own conclusions as to who is correct ...

Another point of interest was that I had email telling me I had to go for review and couldn't wait until allocation and then appeal this sent PO in a tizzy but according to AA up until 7 December (my email was dated 7 December ) apparently staff were giving out incorrect advice.

So for the whole of the first week after results, during which something like 95% of parents are likely to have contacted the Admissions team to request an "appeal".

[miltonkeynesmum]

[quote]So for the whole of the first week after results, during which something like 95% of parents are likely to have contacted the Admissions team to request an "appeal". Yes astounding isn't that no one bothered to do some staff training on changes that affected so many of us.

[Siena_1]

Just looking at my email dated 11 Dec from BCC saying I have to do a review and then if unsuccessful can appeal, no mention of FCO.

[miltonkeynesmum]

Hi just got our letter fromIAP this morning. We were successful in proving SRP was not FCO however they decided that DD was not of academic standard even though sitting level 6 for SATS and is in schools Gifted Talented group. What troubles me is if the whole review process is inherently flawed then surely the resulting decision is also flawed by beign notFCO so why not reverse that decision also? Do you think this may be ? For EFA ? Or Judicial Review?

[Alex]

What troubles me is if the whole review process is inherently flawed then surely the resulting decision is also flawed by beign notFCO so why not reverse that decision also? Do you think this may be ? For EFA ? Or Judicial Review?

The Panel will have made its own decision about qualification, having found the Review not to be FCO, and that decision will have been unfettered by the decision made by the Review panel.

I think some people have posted who have been successful both in having the Review deemed not to be FCO and in overturning non-qualification.

I am sorry to hear your news