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 Post subject: KENT Appeal process
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:07 pm 
Would anyone who has had a successful appeal please let me know how they did it or what the sequence of events were?My wife and i are not regular church go-ers so if our little darling does not pass we are left with the worst school in town or move!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:32 pm 
my faimly were hoping my shanice to pass.
she was in the down group for every think and she passed after that she fainted but she was ok

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:34 pm 
emma wrote:
my faimly were hoping my shanice to pass.
she was in the down group for every think and she passed after that she fainted but she was ok
:) :wink:

 Post subject: Appeals
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:23 pm 
Appeal process?Still waiting for USEFULL information.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:19 pm 

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I am not from your region and haven't appealed!!, just mentioning that there is a very good thread about appeals in the Buckinghamshire section. The process may be different from yours but it's still worth reading.

Good luck

 Post subject: appeals in kent
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:41 pm 
as well as that, try asking the local authority admission section in Kent if there is an officer who can help explain the appeals process (in addition to the info that is already in the admission booklet for secondary schools which is scanty).

maybe you can talk to some parents from your school of choice who successfully appealed last year - someone may know on the grapevine who got in that way.

but do not hold too much hope for a successful appeal; presumably when you filled in the Common Application Form you had a fall back position which did not depend on successful appeal.

and did you know that in Kent that before the results come out, the headteacher can appeal for children who he / she considers should have passed. Did you ask your primary head if he / she would appeal in case of failure? This is mentioned in the admissions booklet. I don't know if the head appeals on your behalf before the results are made public, and is unsuccessful, whether this reduces the parents chance of successful appeal.

do you have strong grounds (including evidence) for believing that your child is grammar school material i.e. in top 25%?

which kent grammar schools did you put down, and what were your non-selective choices and in which order?

 Post subject: Appeals in Kent
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:11 am 
I don't know much about the appeals system in Kent, I don't even know if our child is currently going through an appeal or has passed - we find out on 2nd March when the school places are allocated. We do know that the headteacher knows the results and is appealing on behalf of those that he feels should be in grammar school next year.

Our headteacher advised us to put 2 grammars followed by the next best comprehensive that would suit our child - our fall-back position.

Our headteacher also advised us that he would appeal for our child if the need arose.

It would be nice to think that the original poster was given similar information before completing their CAF.

I would like to know on what grounds a parent could appeal if the headteachers appeal has already failed. Surely they have already submitted all the relevant information.

Or is it a case that the 'parents appeals' are only for school placement and not whether the child has passed the 11+? Therefore if the headteachers appeal has failed, the 11+ failure still stands, but the parent can then appeal for a better comprehensive?

Would be grateful if anyone knows the answers to these questions.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:45 pm 
MM I am a kent parent doing this for the first time.I was given NO advice by the school as to what to put on the form ,but I was told that my child was suitable for a grammar and I was told by their teacher verbally that the school would support an appealI would like to know how the system works as my child will not get into two local comprehensives as they require a letter from your vicar to say the family are regular church- goers which we are not.Failing to get in to a grammar will require us to move to somewhere else.

 Post subject: appeals in kent
PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:05 pm 
you both (MM plus guest) need to speak to someone in the school admissions section about appeals at Kent Education.

Trouble is that heads do not always give the best info re. appeals. When you filled in the CAF you really needed to check that the non-selective schools that you were putting down would have been likely to have space for you if you put them second or third on the form as some are full with first choice preferences, and many include distance in there oversubscription criteria and you may live too far away whether you had put them first, second or third.

My understanding is that the headteacher appeal is about trying to change the 11+ result from an H ( high school assessment) to a G (grammar school) assessment. Now this may be successful, but even if it was if you have put down grammar schools requiring high 11+ scores (e.g. Judd in Tonbridge) a bare G would probably not be sufficient to get you in on appeal. The headteacher appeal does not revise the mark itself.

My understanding is that the parental appeal, once the results have come out, is about arguing why your child should have a place at that school, and what it is about the provision there which will suit your child in a way that no other school will. I think you can only appeal for schools you put on the CAF.

There is also a reallocations procedure in Kent, and a chance to apply direct to the school once the authority admissions process is over .... I don't suppose this would get you into your grammar school of choice, but it might get you into whatever non-selectives you put down on the CAF.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:47 am 
My son's school had only a handful of children taking the exam. His teacher said they would appeal for him and the same was said to another child at least. I have had no contact with the Headmaster - what could he say further to me?
The other child had his books go missing for a week - my son didn't. I was very surprised. Why take one childs books because my son became a little suspicious (not that he knew what was going on). I realise it may be an appeal.
Would that be enough time for those to be sent off?
I would like some advice on this?
I have another child year 4 very keen to do eleven plus (mad)
I have great faith in my son, in his abilities and feel I know his academic standard very well. My son has only chosen a non selective grammar as he "likes" it. It is the nearest, suits his personality and offers the sport he loves. The two selective grammars he felt were not for him so obviously our choice of schools has been limited with almost all requiring you to put them as first choice. Such is life!

Not long to go 8)

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