Hi all,

Thanks for this forum and guidance provided. I am new so all the information provided is very helpful.

My daughter got 120 in her Bucks 11+ exam.

A summary of her background:
1. Born in the UK, was here till age 5, then went back to India and did schooling for four years there. She completed Year 3 before coming back to the UK
2. Last year May 2017, we came back but got to know from the school that for her date of birth, the next year would be Year 5 and not Year 4.
3. She has done half of summer term of Year 4 and started on Year 5. In terms of learning, she has missed 95% of Year 4.
4. We started on grammar preparation last year by end of August. Not knowing the extent of preparation needed, we enrolled her for private tutoring.
5. She is attending an independent all-thorough school, who are not very happy recommending a student from their school to another senior school. So I do not have much support from the Head Teacher there.

So first question, does the above information help in anyway for the appeal - student from abroad and missed a year of education?
Secondly, I have reports of Year 5 with me but do we need more from the years before?

What other evidence can I provide for my case?

Also what is the difference between appeal and review?

Your time and help is much appreciated.

Kind regards,
Sri.

Welcome!

The first thing is to make sure you read all the guidance.
For example:

here.

and here.

and here.

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Etienne

Thank you, I will. I have read partly and have taken the day off today to complete the reading and to take some actions.

Additionally, to my above post, daughter was unwell during the exam times. We visited the GP for it, she was down with viral infection. Does this add any value to the extenuating circumstance?

I really need that clarification on whether mentioning about her missing a year will aid the appeal or create a negative impact?

Thanks once again.

The illness is a tricky one because the guidance is that if you send your child to take the test, you have deemed them well enough to do so. If there's any doubt as to their fitness or health, the advice is to not take the test and do it on another date as soon as they are well again. It means you can't really use the illness as an extenuating circumstance.

You may as well provide the evidence of illness - but as anotherdad points out - if you sent her in for the test, you were in effect saying she was fit to take the test. That is how it will be viewed.

Difficult to say whether they would add value to your case. Did the school follow the English curriculum? Will there be 'hard data' that the panel can understand?

It's certainly worth a mention, but what really matters is (a) whether she was making excellent progress beforehand, and (b) whether she is overcoming the difficulties and making rapid progress now.

The problem with (a), if it was an Indian curriculum, is that the panel will have no idea whether standards are comparable.

The problem with (b) is that the panel would expect to see Key Stage 2 predictions of 111-120 and "Greater Depth", but the independent school probably has a different system of assessment, and it sounds as if they might not be particularly co-operative.

Have you finished reading the Q&As?
https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/appea ... cation#b19
An educational psychologist's report might possibly have been helpful in this situation - depending on the results - but I'm not sure you could get one in time for a review.

The best part of your case that I've seen so far is that there was a score of 120!

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Etienne

Yes, a review is sat behind closed doors and is a paper exercise. An appeal is different and you can attend to present your case. Do make sure you read the guidance and understand the difference between the two and the consequences of choosing one or the other.

Don't even contemplate taking your daughter to an appeal if you go down that route, no matter how confident she might be.

I'm very doubtful, but I don't know exactly what you have in mind. If it's a tutor, absolutely not.
In what way would this person be qualified, fully independent, and able to provide proper evidence that your daughter's ability puts her at (for example) the 90th percentile nationally?

The point about chartered educational psychologists is that they are very highly qualified for this type of assessment. They are regulated, with accreditation through the BPS, and there is now a requirement that they are registered with the Health Professions Council.

Worth mentioning. Whether it is possible to provide convincing evidence to support this, I don't know.

Evidence of really rapid progress would be helpful.

You're right to notice that this is a problem. Grammar school standard is well above expectations.

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Etienne

Thanks for the advice, I wouldn't. Just that there are times she is so much more independent and clear than me.

Ok, while I went missing for the last 36 hours, I have completed the below tasks:

1. Convinced the Head Teacher of her current school to give me a letter - it is ready and I will collect tomorrow from school.
2. Collected a letter from GP too as a note that she was unwell during her exam. Again, this is not what I would focus on.
3. Spoke to EP's and finally fixed for an assessment next week.
4. In the background, I have read your non-qualification FAQ's - trying to create a good cover letter to go with the above.

Please advice if I am on the right track.

Thanks again.
Sri.