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Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:46 pm
by Timur
Hello all,
my DD was sitting 11+ exams with GLT trust (Nonsuch / Wallington GSs) in November 2020 and received a total score of well above 300, however she did not pass the English essay exam minimal requirements with 1 point below the threshold. I have already read the Q&As, really helpful, thanks a lot for you efforts pulling this together.

I would appreciate your opinion on the following :

We are prepping for an appeal based on: 1. Challenging the essay scoring approach as outlined below, 2.Academic Evidence, 3. Extenuating Circumstances.

1. Is anyone able to share their appeal experience with Wallington or Nonsuch GSs?
We live in the catchment area and will be appealing non-qualification only.

2. Does anyone have experience appealing one point under the threshold in essay score with any GS (appreciate we cannot challenge the score itself, only the process), what are the key points to consider?
We already asked for a review of the essay, it expectedly received exactly the same score. We have also learned that only one of the examiners left very limited generic comments/notes related to the essay , the second examiner left no notes whatsoever.
I have emailed detailed information to the Appeal box.

Thanks a lot!

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:37 pm
by scary mum
Welcome to the forum. I'm sure one of our experts will be able to help you. In the meantime have you read this section. It may answer some of your queries.

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:33 pm
by Etienne
Welcome!
I have already read the Q&As, really helpful
Well done. :D
Does anyone have experience appealing one point under the threshold in essay score ... ?
I can't immediately think of an appeal on here where the the essay was a significant issue in the parental case, or where the marking of the test was successfully challenged.

I understand why you feel dissatisfied, but as you are querying the admission arrangements, look carefully at what the Appeals Code requires in sections 3.2 and 3.5(a):
3.2 The panel must consider the following matters in relation to each child that is the subject of an appeal:
(a) whether the admission arrangements (including the area’s co-ordinated admission arrangements) complied with the mandatory requirements of the School Admissions Code and Part 3 of the School Standards and Framework Act 1998; and
(b) whether the admission arrangements were correctly and impartially applied in
the case in question.

3.5 The panel must uphold the appeal at the first stage where:
a) it finds that the admission arrangements did not comply with admissions law or had not been correctly and impartially applied, and the child would have been offered a place if the arrangements had complied or had been correctly and impartially applied
[my bold print]
In practice parents appealing for a grammar school place (when the test requirements have not been met) usually look to section 3.13 of the Code:
3.13 An appeal panel may be asked to consider an appeal where the appellant believes that the child did not perform at their best on the day of the entrance test. In such cases:
a) where a local review process has not been applied, the panel must only uphold the appeal if it is satisfied:
i) that there is evidence to demonstrate that the child is of the required academic standards, for example, school reports giving Year 5/Year 6 SAT results or a letter of support from their current or previous school clearly indicating why the child is considered to be of grammar school ability; and
ii) where applicable, that the appellant’s arguments outweigh the admission authority’s case that admission of additional children would cause prejudice.

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:23 pm
by Timur
Thanks, Etienne. Appreciate your comments a lot. I see my situation with the essay is pretty much unique, which is bad and good at the same time.

Guess you are right, querying the admission arrangements might not be the right approach from my side. I have no way to be sure that my DD "would have been offered a place if the arrangements had complied…" for a very simple reason - the GLT would never show me the script. I also assume that the GLT would defend fiercely, and picking up a fight with the trust and the school is not what I want.

This might be a reasonable approach for a legal challenge rather than an appeal.

In any case, any comments to my case would be very much appreciated.

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:25 pm
by Timur
I would also appreciate if anyone could share their experience of an appeal with Nonsuch or Wallington Girls.

Also, would be great to read any 11 plus essay marking guidance . A link to the document would be great.

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:58 am
by Timur
Hi All,
We went through the appeal process with Nonsuch High this year and happy to share our experience with anyone who are interested to know about the process. Please PM me if you want me to share my experience.

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:03 am
by hermanmunster
Timur wrote:Hi All,
We went through the appeal process with Nonsuch High this year and happy to share our experience with anyone who are interested to know about the process. Please PM me if you want me to share my experience.

Hi Timur - thanks for offer to share experience, we have a (long-running) thread for feedback from appeals and it would be great if you could add yours using the template - really helps people in the future https://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum ... =35&t=9205" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:16 am
by abbyska
Hi all, we have a similar situation with our DD who sat 11+ for GLT trust (Nonsuch / Wallington GSs) this year (2022), cleared first stage SET, and maths in stage 2 but missed stage 2 creative writing by one point. We estimate that with the extra one point she would have received an offer. She is dyslectic and we suspect her spelling and punctuation may have affected her mark in creative writing assessment. Any thoughts would be welcome, in particular if anyone can share how Timur's appeal application and outcome turned out that would be great.

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:27 pm
by hermanmunster
abbyska wrote:Hi all, we have a similar situation with our DD who sat 11+ for GLT trust (Nonsuch / Wallington GSs) this year (2022), cleared first stage SET, and maths in stage 2 but missed stage 2 creative writing by one point. We estimate that with the extra one point she would have received an offer. She is dyslectic and we suspect her spelling and punctuation may have affected her mark in creative writing assessment. Any thoughts would be welcome, in particular if anyone can share how Timur's appeal application and outcome turned out that would be great.
Hi Abbyska - Timur hasn't posted on the forum since last year but maybe if you send a private message they will get notified of this and give you some feedback

Re: Nonsuch / Wallington GSs appeal experience

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:14 pm
by RCarter
Hi, we have a question around the marking of the second stage essay question. Our DD also sat 11+ for GLT trust (Nonsuch / Wallington GSs) this year (2022), cleared first stage SET, and maths in stage 2 but missed stage 2 creative writing.

She is usually very strong at creative writing and so we're baffled why she got the lowest score. Her Maths score was extremely high and would have got her through if it was based on maths alone.

We are concerned that the people marking it may believe she went in with a pre-prepared essay. She didn't.

We wondered how we can find out if this was the case; whether they would even share that as an opinion or reason for her not only not scoring high enough, but failing her completely.

We have support from her school and strong evidence of her abilities.

Would anyone be able to share details of a similar situation?
Many thanks!