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Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosapiens

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:12 pm
by quasimodo
We share above 98 % of our DNA with our closest relatives in the animal kingdom. Interesting developments across the pond.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32396497" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:32 pm
by quasimodo
Another interesting article on the same subject
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6505691.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:32 am
by quasimodo
Another thought provoking link to an article in the daily mail today.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... think.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:59 pm
by mike1880
I wouldn't get too excited yet.

http://nypost.com/2015/04/21/judge-reve ... impanzees/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:23 pm
by quasimodo
It seems there is a lot of monkey business going on here!!!

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:32 pm
by Catseye
sounds like a university interview question that some demented Don would ask

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:45 pm
by quasimodo
Catseye wrote:sounds like a university interview question that some demented Don would ask
I am astounded I would have thought catseye would have sided with her brethren in the animal kingdom!!! :D

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:24 pm
by Catseye
quasimodo wrote:
Catseye wrote:sounds like a university interview question that some demented Don would ask
I am astounded I would have thought catseye would have sided with her brethren in the animal kingdom!!! :D
the answer is implicit in the question


The Chimpanzee

Suborder: Haplorrhini
Infraorder: Simiiformes
Superfamily: Hominoidea
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Pan
Species: P. troglodytes
Subspecies: P. t. schweinfurthii, P. t. troglodytes, P. t. vellerosus, P. t. verus

homosapiens - sapien

no Subspecies , all are equal ( and no, some are not more equal than others)

in law we can only be compared with what is reasonable compared to our peers.

Infanticide is common in Chim society but could we prosecute them self evidently not because they have insufficient mental capacity to know what they have done.

with legal rights comes responsibilities, it would be unfair and unreasonable to expect a Chim to have human understanding of the theory of mind .

if we start down this road where will it end ,alternatively we could convert into being Jains ?

I could go on and on but I would only bore you.

Q.E.D

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:16 pm
by quasimodo
https://www.thedodo.com/community/LoriG ... 91626.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

An interesting article which has a contrary view about animals having rights.(Not the same as having the same legal rights as humans).

In the USA on average most years about 450 people are charged with killing their children.In every country this happens.Some will argue they lack the relevant mental capacity.Similarly when children kill other humans depending on their ages and laws in each country children will not be charged as lacking the mental capacity.

It would be interesting to have a window on the future and look back in 200,000 years time from the perspective of the dominant species to see what rights they would give to us compared to them even it is from what has evolved from us.

Re: Should chimpanzees have the same legal rights as homosap

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:35 am
by mike1880
First world problem.