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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:41 am 

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The public comments at the end of the article are, as always, the most "illuminating" part of the publication.

And this piece of nearly old news amused me:

Germany and France brushed aside comments from Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson suggesting there was no link between the EU's principle of free movement and access to its single market, saying they could send Johnson a copy of the Lisbon Treaty and even travel to London to explain it to him in English.

Johnson, a leading Brexit advocate who is known for his colourful language, told Sky News television on Thursday that the EU's position that there was an automatic trade-off between what access to the single market and free movement was "complete baloney."

Asked about the remarks at a news conference in Berlin, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble and his French counterpart Michel Sapin shot glances at each other before the German host responded.

"We just looked at each other because we're used to respecting foreign ministers a lot," Schaeuble said.

"If we need to do more, we will gladly send her majesty's foreign minister a copy of the Lisbon Treaty. Then he can read that there is a certain link between the single market and the four core principles in Europe," he added.

"I can also say it in English. So if clarification is necessary we can pay a visit and explain this to him in good English," Schaeuble said.

Sapin, in a French twist on Johnson's "baloney" jibe, said: "There are four freedoms and they cannot be separated. So if we want to make good European paté then there are four freedoms that together make up the paté in question."

(Reporting by Noah Barkin)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:59 am 

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In June we had a vote on whether or not to jump off a cliff.
Jump won.
Our leaders said that "Jump means Jump".
We have no idea of how high the cliff is or what lies at the bottom; could be water, could be sand; increasingly different experts think rocks.
Some people want to put a feather mattress at the bottom to cushion the fall but others say that's too expensive and it isn't what we voted for.
Some people say that we now have control and can dictate the height of the cliff and what's at the bottom.
Some of the people in charge say that, when we actually jump, we will fly if only we 'believe'.
Many think that because nothing much has happened between deciding to jump and actually jumping that all is OK.
An increasing number think we shouldn't jump at all.

Mr Thomas Young a subscriber to the Times on Line in the comment section,I have asked his permission to plagiarize his comment.

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