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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:37 am 
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So, some papers say, the bottle that had maybe survived since March and was used as perfume spray by Dawn, was then handed to Charlie and it fell apart in his hands. And he says he does not know or cannot remember where he or Dawn found it in the first place. They now think they know the names of who did it. So, if that's true, maybe this latest sad disaster has actually led to some useful new info.


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:55 pm 
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Awful and, as ever, deeply puzzling.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... lie-rowley


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:09 pm 
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I think it's irresponsible for ITV and Mr Rowley to have conducted and published the interview. This is a complex and very serious case and banding details around isn't going to help the authorities in their investigations.


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:41 pm 
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Yes, I agree. The only positive thing is that it was quite difficult avoiding front doors before whereas perfume is less of a necessity.


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:36 am 
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Apparently the suspects were just tourists visiting Salisbury Cathedral. I mean, we've all done it, haven't we? Taken a 2,000 mile trip to see a cathedral in an unremarkable foreign town, turned around and gone home again the next day. Oh, and accidentally just happen to wander down the street where a retired secret agent lives. I know I have.


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:43 am 
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I've just watched the video interview where one of the suspects recites some wonderful facts about the cathedral. If I were the local tourist board, I'd be running that as an advert.


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:43 pm 
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anotherdad wrote:
Apparently the suspects were just tourists visiting Salisbury Cathedral. I mean, we've all done it, haven't we? Taken a 2,000 mile trip to see a cathedral in an unremarkable foreign town, turned around and gone home again the next day. Oh, and accidentally just happen to wander down the street where a retired secret agent lives. I know I have.


:lol: :lol: :lol: oh yes and Fisherton Street has got a lovely coin shop and a super clock shop. would travel across Europe to see those. yeh right and you have a pretty naff sense of direction as the cathedral is in a totally different direction from the railway station to the cul-de-sac that the Skripals lived in... :? :?


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:10 pm 
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hermanmunster wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: oh yes and Fisherton Street has got a lovely coin shop and a super clock shop. would travel across Europe to see those. yeh right and you have a pretty naff sense of direction as the cathedral is in a totally different direction from the railway station to the cul-de-sac that the Skripals lived in... :? :?

Yes, I looked at google maps. So these two "tourists" couldn't make their way 0.7 miles to the cathedral they'd flown thousands of miles to see because of the heavy snow everywhere, but managed to accidentally wander over a mile in the opposite direction and stumble into the very street that an ex Russian agent happens to live in.

I do have to remind myself that people were made seriously ill and one person died as a consequence of this because it's such a bad alibi it's comical. I am amazed that the authorities didn't put some more thought into their story. Watching the interview with them, their translator is pretty much reading, word for word, the wikipedia entry for the cathedral.


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:20 pm 
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I was down Hampshire / Wiltshire way that Sunday (and no I didn't see any Russians) and there was v little snow about - far less than in Yorkshire :wink: . Also I know the area he lived in - not a place you accidentally get to from the station - not least because the cathedral has the enormous spire (that the russians knew all about ) and you can't really miss it.


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 Post subject: Re: Salisbury
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I wonder if anyone has any views on the relative international/domestic response to the murder of Jamal Khashoggi - its proportionality when compared with the Novichok incident, for example, and the reasons behind it, with special reference to the war in Yemen? Personally I think there are a lot of interesting observations to be made around the framing of these two incidents.


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