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Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:40 pm
by cheerio1357
Hi all
Any insight on grammar school destinations not only from University perspective but from career perspective too? While the grammar schools themselves post data on Uni leavers, just curious about where grammar educated children end up in the career industry. TIA

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:30 pm
by Guest55
There will be quite a range of careers from top surgeons, barristers, teachers, engineers, architects, designers ... right through to actors, musicians etc. Why are you asking?

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:38 pm
by ToadMum
Maidstone Grammar School sent one Head Girl off to make British Olympic history :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzy_Yarnold

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:11 pm
by cheerio1357
Guest55 wrote:There will be quite a range of careers from top surgeons, barristers, teachers, engineers, architects, designers ... right through to actors, musicians etc. Why are you asking?
I have been reading a few articles online which say a lot of good things about GS but not any that I came across which showed some kind of data about what the leavers from GS do for a living. Thought it would be interesting to know..

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:13 pm
by cheerio1357
ToadMum wrote:Maidstone Grammar School sent one Head Girl off to make British Olympic history :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzy_Yarnold
That is lovely to know, thanks:)

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:38 pm
by Guest55
I'm just saying some of the students I know. Data won't have been collected and the range won't be that different to any school.

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:57 pm
by Aethel
I suspect, like any school, it depends upon the demographic of students and families who enter and pass through the school. Certain parents value some degrees more than others:
There is often an obsession with numbers of medicine/pharmacy/law/engineering.
Likewise a “thing” about Oxford/Cambridge/Imperial/Bristol or similar.

So perhaps what you should be asking is “do the children leave and go to where they want to be”, rather than where Mum/Dad/others think they should go.....

Given the grammar school cohort is generally quite academic, I’d expect a broad range of unis and subjects, and comparatively few vocational courses.

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:48 am
by anotherdad
Aethel wrote:I suspect, like any school, it depends upon the demographic of students and families who enter and pass through the school. Certain parents value some degrees more than others:
There is often an obsession with numbers of medicine/pharmacy/law/engineering.
Likewise a “thing” about Oxford/Cambridge/Imperial/Bristol or similar.

So perhaps what you should be asking is “do the children leave and go to where they want to be”, rather than where Mum/Dad/others think they should go.....

Given the grammar school cohort is generally quite academic, I’d expect a broad range of unis and subjects, and comparatively few vocational courses.
That is the nub of it. My daughter's year group (Y13) is unusually obsessed with medicine and for many of the students, it's less about what they actually want to do and more about what their parents expect them to be doing. What has been encouraging, although sadly upsetting in some quarters, is that universities appear to be good at differentiating between the two types of applicant. Some of the girls whose parents have been pushing for medicine for a few years have struggled to get interviews and those interviewed have had few offers between them. The girls who have a genuine desire to pursue medicine as a career have got the offers they wanted, even though in some cases they have less impressive grade predictions.

Who would you rather have as a medical student? The young person who's demonstrated a long-term commitment to care by working in a care home alongside his/her A-levels or the young person whose experience is two days stood at mum's shoulder as she carried out heart surgery?

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:55 am
by loobylou
Also careers destinations change over time. The person who gets a job at 21 after university in a bank might leave and get a job somewhere else by 27. It would be impossible to collate meaningful data about careers I would have thought.
I believe around 30% of those studying medicine at Oxford do not progress and go onto their foundation years as doctors so even degrees do not really tell you always what people choose then to do.

Re: Grammar schools leavers destination

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:35 pm
by Daogroupie
Jeremy and Teresa did all right from their grammar schools! DG