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The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of salt

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:26 pm
by Catseye
1 2 Queen Elizabeth's School, Barnet Barnet Selective (100%)
2 1 The Henrietta Barnett School, Hampstead London Selective (100%)
3 4 Wilson's School, Wallington Wallington Selective (100%)
4 5 The Tiffin Girls' School Kingston upon Thames
5 3 St Olave's Grammar School Orpington Selective (100%)
6 7 Reading School Reading Selective (100%)
7 8 Pate's Grammar School Cheltenham
8 17 Colchester Royal Grammar School Colchester
9 14 Colchester County High School for Girls
10 9 Tonbridge Grammar School Tonbridge
11 6 Altrincham Grammar School for Girls Altrincham Selective
12 26 Kendrick School Reading Selective (100%)
13 20 St Michael's RC Grammar School, Finchley London Selective (100%)
14 10 King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Boys Birmingham Selective (100%)
15 15 King Edward VI Grammar School, Chelmsford Chelmsford Selective (100%)
16 11 The Latymer School London Selective (100%)
17 25 Colyton Grammar School Colyton Selective (100%)
18 19 Tiffin School Kingston upon Thames Selective (100%)
19 50 Sutton Grammar School Sutton Selective (100%)
20 28 King Edward VI School, Stratford Stratford-upon-Avon Selective (100%)
21 16 Dartford Grammar School Dartford Selective (100%)
22 13 The Judd School Tonbridge Selective (100%)
23 - St Dominic's Grammar School for Girls Belfast Selective (100%)
24 21 Nonsuch High School for Girls Cheam Selective (100%)
25 12 King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Girls Birmingham Selective (100%)
26= 35 Dame Alice Owen's School Potters Bar Partially selective
26= 49 Woodford County High School Woodford Green Selective (100%)
28 24 Chelmsford County High School for Girls Chelmsford Selective (100%)
29 22 Lumen Christi College Derry Selective (100%)
30 36 Altrincham Grammar School for Boys Altrincham Selective (100%)
31 23 Sutton Coldfield Grammar School for Girls Sutton Coldfield Selective (100%)
32 18 The Blue Coat School, Liverpool Liverpool Selective (100%)
33 42 Bishop Vesey's Grammar School Sutton Coldfield Selective (100%)
34 31 Stratford Girls' Grammar School Stratford-upon-Avon Selective (100%)
35 70= Torquay Girls' Grammar School Torquay Selective (100%)
36 34 Westcliff High School for Boys Westcliff-on-Sea Selective (100%)
37 33 Friends' School Lisburn Lisburn Selective (100%)
38 48 Tunbridge Wells Girls' Grammar School Tunbridge Wells Selective (100%)
39 84 Aquinas Diocesan Grammar School, Belfast Belfast Selective (100%)
40 - Dr Challoner's High School Little Chalfont Selective (100%)
41 69 Southend High School For Boys Southend-on-Sea
42 29 Our Lady and St Patrick's College, Knock Belfast Selective (100%)
43 87= Stroud High School Stroud Selective (100%)
44 61 Dr Challoner's Grammar School Amersham Selective (100%)
45 41 Rathmore Grammar School Belfast Selective (100%)
46 52 Southend High School for Girls Southend-on-Sea Selective (100%)
47 45= Lancaster Girls' Grammar School Lancaster Selective (100%)
48 37 Beaconsfield High School Beaconsfield Selective (100%)
49 54 Ripon Grammar School Ripon Selective (100%)
50 55 South Wilts Grammar School for Girls Salisbury

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:40 pm
by kenyancowgirl
When was this one published?

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:03 pm
by ToadMum
kenyancowgirl wrote:When was this one published?
You're only suspicious because the order is different from that of the last league table someone cited :) .

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:06 pm
by kenyancowgirl
Exactly! I wondered if this was one that had been produced today.....

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:20 pm
by Tinkers
I think the other one was for gcse results and this one isn’t.

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:17 pm
by Catseye
It's The Times ; Parent Power Survey 2019...it measures
RANK LAST YEAR'S RANK SCHOOL TOWN TYPE
(% A*) A-LEVEL
(% A*/A) A-LEVEL
(% A*/B) A-LEVEL
RANK GCSE
(% A*/A/9/8/7) GCSE
RANK ENTRY
GENDER

A -levels are double-weighted to give an over-all rank .

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:19 pm
by thisisnuts
ToadMum wrote:
kenyancowgirl wrote:When was this one published?
You're only suspicious because the order is different from that of the last league table someone cited :) .
The last one was from The Telegraph, this one's from The Times.

The Telegraph ranked by percentage achieving grade 9-4 in GCSE, with the Progress 8 score as a tiebreaker.

The Times measures the percentage achieving 9-7 in GCSE and A*-B in A' Level. The rank is determined by combining these percentages, giving double weight to the A' Level score.

They don't give a reason for double weighting A' Levels.

You can get numbers to say anything you want!

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:30 pm
by Catseye
Schools are ranked by performance at A-level and GCSE in summer 2018. The number of A*, A and B grades gained is expressed as a percentage of the total number of A-level entries overall. This is double-weighted. The number of 9, 8, 7, A* and A grades gained at GCSE is expressed as a percentage of the total number of GCSE entries overall. We include iGCSEs sat in independent schools.This is single weighted. School rankings are based on their combined performance in these examinations. Rankings based on performance at A-level or GCSE alone can be found by clicking on the relevant columns displayed in the league table. International Baccalaureate outcomes have been converted to equivalent A-level grades where schools have asked us to do so. IB Higher level outcomes grades 7, 6 and 5 are equivalent to A-level grades A*, A and B respectively. The same principle applies to Pre-U outcomes, although they are also included in a separate section, see below. D1 and D2 was taken as equivalent to A* at A-level; D3 and M1 was taken as equivalent to an A-grade and M2 to a B grade at A-level.

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:37 pm
by ToadMum
thisisnuts wrote:
ToadMum wrote:
kenyancowgirl wrote:When was this one published?
You're only suspicious because the order is different from that of the last league table someone cited :) .
The last one was from The Telegraph, this one's from The Times.

The Telegraph ranked by percentage achieving grade 9-4 in GCSE, with the Progress 8 score as a tiebreaker.

The Times measures the percentage achieving 9-7 in GCSE and A*-B in A' Level. The rank is determined by combining these percentages, giving double weight to the A' Level score.

They don't give a reason for double weighting A' Levels.

You can get numbers to say anything you want!
Well, this one must be the real one; the other one didn't have QE and HBS in their rightful positions. My mum's old school did better than HBS the way the Telegraph calculated it :oops: .

Re: The top 50 state schools:The Times.Take with a pinch of

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:51 pm
by Proudmumregardless
Well this quite clearly isn't right I'm going to complain to the editor, the education minister and everyone who'll listen. I'm appalled that they'd rank my daughters school in such a shocking position.


Or meh. Who gives a shiney one. Surely the best tables would show where their pupils end up at uni then what careers they pursue. I know many an A* student Cambridge graduate who burned out once education finished and real life began.