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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:14 pm

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Been a while I posted on this forum. I find it quite strange that most Medicine schools are seeing the new numeric grade 9 and 8's as equivalent to old A* on their pre-interview offers calculator. As far as I can see from grade boundaries there is huge difference between 9 and 8 - as much as 20% in raw marks for some subjects. For e.g. Birmingham med school looks at 7 GCSE's (5 core and 2 additional) and provides a score out of 24, which is then scaled to a maximum 6.

Student A scoring 6 9's and 7 in English language will achieve 22/24
Student B scoring 6 8's and 8 in English language will achieve 24/24

Quite unfair for student A, who has 6 9's, and student B, who has none. In the above scenario, Student B is more likely to be invited for interview, which really defies all logic.

Would love to know your thoughts?

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:16 pm

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Both 8 and 9 are equivalent to the 'old' A* so I see it as very sensible, especially as the system beds down.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:25 pm

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Guest55, Are we saying then there was no real need to distinguish between a 9 and 8? I thought the whole point was filter out the higher A*'s from lower?

Grade boundary for Edexcel Maths 9 was 202
For 8 it was something like 160

Do we not see a difference in the ability above?

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:29 pm

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I do not at all see it as sensible from med schools! I see it as not ready for changes in time.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:35 pm

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What are 'strange med schools' exactly?

What is your personal grievance here. OP? it sounds like you have one.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:36 pm

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Yes but an 8 could have got 201 and a 9 202 - not very different there are they?

The reforms were a complete waste of time and money - there was no need to separate out 'top' A*s. Oxbridge are treating the 8 and 9s the same too - you are out of step with most people's thinking.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:38 pm

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I doubt they will get enough applicants if just looking for all 9 s so makes sense that they will look at 8s and 9s. Anyone doing medicine need a wider range of skills and attributes than just a set of grade 9s at GCSE. Excellent interpersonal skills,confidence, self awareness, maturity, empathy, manual dexterity and capacity to multi task all come into mind.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:42 pm

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piggys wrote:
What are 'strange med schools' exactly?

What is your personal grievance here. OP? it sounds like you have one.

Piggys - I have no grievance against anyone - just gathering opinion on something I thought was unfair. If anything you are being quite pedantic and nitpicking. I guess the title only allow a certain amount of characters so I had to take 'that' out of "Strange that Med schools are equating.."

Does that read better for you Piggys?

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:45 pm

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Guest55 wrote:
Yes but an 8 could have got 201 and a 9 202 - not very different there are they?

The reforms were a complete waste of time and money - there was no need to separate out 'top' A*s. Oxbridge are treating the 8 and 9s the same too - you are out of step with most people's thinking.

Some aren't Guest55! Cardiff is treating 9 as A* and 8 as A, and righly so. And I see many more following

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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:49 pm

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People who get straight 9s obviously make better doctors - would you really want your GP only having got an 8 in French?

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