Eligibility for Student Tuition fee

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hermanmunster
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Re: Eligibility for Student Tuition fee

Post by hermanmunster »

Belinda, I agree - I am confused too.

@yvonne - have you been refused a home student loan? or had international fees quoted?

The people assessing the fees will be curious about addresses as people try all sorts of tricks to reduce fees and get loans etc.. for example I am sure that there are some english kids this year who have suddenly been resident in the french gite for the last few years (and somehow still able to attend UK schools :oops: :roll: ) so that they pay £0 rather than £9000 a year at the english univeristy.

there may also some non EU students who are boarding here - not eilgible for home fees but may now have one parent who has moved to UK to live (and possibly not work) nearby ... are they then resident or still here solely for the purpose of education? :?
Kesteven
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Re: Eligibility for Student Tuition fee

Post by Kesteven »

I am very closely involved in decisions about home vs international fees. Without further information on this case it's impossible to advise specifically.

Has the student been continuously resident in the UK for the immediate 3 years preceding the course start? Have both parents been similarly resident? If not, where is the main earner resident? And does he pay income tax to the UK? These are the kinds of questions that have to be answered.

And, sadly, Herman's way off beam with his suggestion that addressees of French gites might pay £0 rather than £9000. Home and EU students each pay £0. There's no up front fee payment for either. Each will agree to deductions from subsequent salary (or equivalent remittances) to the UK Exchequer. EU students don't get the same bursaries or discounts, however.

And in Herman's last example; it's quite clear cut. The applicant is in the UK solely for education. That's what counts. So international fees apply.
ql7gt3ssJBtku0kS
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Re: Eligibility for Student Tuition fee

Post by ql7gt3ssJBtku0kS »

Kesteven wrote: And, sadly, Herman's way off beam with his suggestion that addressees of French gites might pay £0 rather than £9000. Home and EU students each pay £0. There's no up front fee payment for either. Each will agree to deductions from subsequent salary (or equivalent remittances) to the UK Exchequer. EU students don't get the same bursaries or discounts, however.
There might be some advantage to claiming to be resident in your gite for three years prior to applying to a Scottish university, of course: EU students are subject to the same fee regime as Scottish students, while English students are subject to English fees.
Marylou
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Re: Eligibility for Student Tuition fee

Post by Marylou »

ql7gt3ssJBtku0kS wrote:
Kesteven wrote: And, sadly, Herman's way off beam with his suggestion that addressees of French gites might pay £0 rather than £9000. Home and EU students each pay £0. There's no up front fee payment for either. Each will agree to deductions from subsequent salary (or equivalent remittances) to the UK Exchequer. EU students don't get the same bursaries or discounts, however.
There might be some advantage to claiming to be resident in your gite for three years prior to applying to a Scottish university, of course: EU students are subject to the same fee regime as Scottish students, while English students are subject to English fees.
Same thing occurred to me. It looks as though the practise of telling porkies about the home address will probably be spreading to university entrance. And hardly surprising, looking at the colossal amounts of money at stake and the ridiculous disparity of treatment that we are now left with.

Not attacking Scotland here, but silly EU laws which will hopefully be challenged before long.
Marylou
mike1880
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Re: Eligibility for Student Tuition fee

Post by mike1880 »

It's worth pointing out that in the event of Scottish independence, Scottish universities will no longer be able to charge English students more than Scottish/EU students. Vote now for Scottish independence! :wink:

Mike
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