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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:04 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:05 pm 
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miso wrote:
Got mine. English score is very low. I don’t understand how they re standardized the score? Why initial vR score 113 became 94 in the second round?


I think I understand why they do this restandardisation. When they give you the first-round scores in Maths and VR, they're standardised across ALL the children with a mark range of 69 to 141. The second round scores are normalised across the same range but the catch is that it's only a subset of the children. If they kept the first-round scores then they'd effectively be giving more weight to English than they do to Maths and Verbal Reasoning.

Why? Well, assuming that children who do well in Maths/VR are, on average, likely to do well in English (and the data shows this to be the case) then they're effectively removing a disproportionate amount of lower-scoring English results but still distributing the second round scores across that 69 -> 141 range in the same way. That means if there were a child who was "average" in Maths (across ALL applicants), they'd get ~100 while one who was average in English might get, say, 80 (because they're being compared against children who are more likely to be good at English). So if you compared two children who were perfect in two subjects but average in Maths or English then the one who was average in Maths would score, say, 382 while the one who was average in English would score, say, 362. Being good at English would matter more than Maths

(Yes, I've probably done more analysis of the data than is healthy but, what can I say, I like this kind of stuff! I did quite a deep dive into the DAO results to understand what they all mean and had spotted the issue with them not restandardising at round 2).


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:51 am 
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I think a very good chance, last year 570 got in!


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Desperation....the letter I got said that last year the last ranking to get a place in September was 330. Is the 570 figure before OOC places have been removed?


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I believe these are rankings in two system, 330 is September is after OOC, 570 got an offer was originally ranking with all OOC kids.


Yes, in January you can inquire about your revised rank after the OOCs are removed and other changes take place (i.e. music places and EHCP students promoted) . Please note that 570 did NOT get a place this September. It was around 520.

I know for sure because my DS was 528 (333 revised) and he didn't get a place. There were 12 children with rank 528 so some of them must have received a place (we're fairly far from the school).



That’s a big move, from 520 to 192! Was 2020 typical? Does anyone have info from earlier years on how big the movements in ranking are between Oct and final enrolment?

Our DS is ranked in the 420s snd wondering what his chances are…


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:15 am 
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@Qeb2019 I think E4 is also in catchment if you're friend is thinking of moving.

It may be helpful for those concerned about rankings to tell you our experience. My Dd1 was ranked 520 after the second round. After the OOC rankings were removed in January, she moved to 328.

She then got a place off the waiting list just before term started in August. So I would say to those who are around this rank, it's worth putting Latymer first on the CAF if it is genuinely your first choice, but you may not get a place. Obviously if we hadn't put Latymer first, we wouldn't have stayed on the waiting list.
It was quite stressful having to rethink in August as we were perfectly happy with our second choice local school that we'd accepted.
So those in the 400s, you have a great chance of getting in. The 500s are more of a lottery.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:45 am 
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That’s really helpful, thanks Stoic.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:24 pm 
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Also @Salvi, I think even on offers day, they offered out to around 220 (rather than 192) as there will be several people in the top 192 that haven't put Latymer first on their form.

So say your DS even moves up a conservative 150 places after OOC are removed, he'd still be in the top 300 with a great chance of getting a place.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:38 pm 
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Thank you very much Stowic.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:56 pm 
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Hi,

My daughter has ranked in the top 192 for Latymers. We have put it as our 3rd choice. If we don't get either of our top 2 choices, would we still get Latymers?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:15 pm 
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MrsA wrote:
Hi,

My daughter has ranked in the top 192 for Latymers. We have put it as our 3rd choice. If we don't get either of our top 2 choices, would we still get Latymers?

Yes, provided she satisfies all the selection criteria of Latymer.

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