Mollycoddled children = inadequate adults

T.i.p.s.y · Post by **T.i.p.s.y** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:31 pm

If you can't cope at 22 then that's very concerning! At least when it was public no one could lie about their results and it was a warning to others that is you live it up at Cambridge you get poor results!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/a ... 418948.ece

KB · Post by KB » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:07 pm

Glad to see your caring side Tipsy

What about those who do work hard & don't get the result they were hoping for? Surely being allowed to see your result before everyone else isn't unreasonable. Its not that they are nolonger going to be public just that students get to see their own result first.
And yes I'm probably biased since my DS will be going through it in 2 years time

T.i.p.s.y · Post by **T.i.p.s.y** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:21 pm

If we were living in a society where children weren't mollycoddled then I may agree KB but if you can't cope with seeing your results in public then I have no idea how they are going to cope in the working world! I would use the phrase "Character building" but actually it's not even worthy of calling it so.

sj355 · Post by **sj355** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:14 pm

T.i.p.s.y wrote:If we were living in a society where children weren't mollycoddled then I may agree KB but if you can't cope with seeing your results in public then I have no idea how they are going to cope in the working world! I would use the phrase "Character building" but actually it's not even worthy of calling it so.

I do not see what the issue is. They are still put on a notice board but students are saved from the stampade trying to reach close to the notice board to see their results. I do not see how lying is going to increase as a result of this, you always have to provide copies of your qualifications to future employers and postgraduate admissions tutors. They are what matters, not whether Mickey or Jackey from the same residence hall/college got a first glimpse of your results before you and have something to gossip about for the next few days.

We used to put the results in my University on a notice board. Now we post them to the student's chosen address (typically abroad as so many of our students are overseas) and provide summary statistics publicly for comparison purposes.

sj355 · Post by **sj355** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:24 pm

However what I DO find worrying is that students no longer can figure out out how well or bad they have done until they actually do get their results. The only anxiety I find justified is when you know you are marginal between two classifications and you want to see the decision of the board of examiners regarding your fate

KB · Post by KB » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:38 pm

I still dont think its a sign of weakness to want to see your exam grade in private before everyone else does. Not wanting everyone knowing your business before you do is a matter of character but not strength of character.
What is being proposed is only that - not that the results are nolonger made public.
IMO they should go further & should be published with candidate number instead of name.

When we were at school our A level results were posted in public before we received them through the post. Last year I had to jump through all kinds of hoops just to collect my DS' A2 results (from his school & in a sealed envelope) on his behalf.

KES Parent · Post by **KES Parent** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:40 pm

When my DS1 was at Oxford, the students could choose whether to have their results publicly posted or not. He and most of his colleagues preferred to stick with tradition, but one of his contemporaries, the son of a well known politician (no, not T Bliar's son!) was one of the ones who chose to keep his results away from the public gaze.

T.i.p.s.y · Post by **T.i.p.s.y** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:06 pm

If so, we should worry very seriously about our country's future in this cutthroat, competitive world.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... sults.html

Couldn't have put it better.

sj355 · Post by **sj355** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:49 pm

T.i.p.s.y wrote:
If so, we should worry very seriously about our country's future in this cutthroat, competitive world.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... sults.html

Couldn't have put it better.

Well done to Tom Utley's father. Unfortunately the son sounds like the type that constantly moans about everything and everyone. Jumping like a monkey to manage to see your results is a pathetic anachronism in an age of instant information about everything. Why should information about yourself be an exception? These column writers impose a waste of paper for no good reason. In any case you can not hide your results as these are still being published. The cut throat competition starts the day after your results are out, not on the day.

As a by the way: How did Tom Utley's father "saw" his results?

T.i.p.s.y · Post by **T.i.p.s.y** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:29 pm

So do you think sheltering our children from everything until the age of 22 will help them to become adults who can cope? Our job is to bring up our children to become well-rounded and developed adults, not to smother them.

Eventhough many are anti boarding school you'll find these adults in top jobs of high risk. You'll find Sandhurst, Athletes, Survival specialists and top high risk corporate jobs filled with public schools pupils who had their results called out in public from day one.