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Optimist
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Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

Post by Optimist »

I was just wondering. DS, in Year 3, had maths problem-solving to solver, for half-term homework. The teacher informed me that they were challenging maths questions and they were designed to identify G&T. Since DS found it difficult, it made me think, should anyone thinking of sitting GS exams be of G&T ability? Is there any correlation?
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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

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It sounds awfully silly to identify G&T through homework, given potential parental assistance!! :?
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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

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mitasol wrote:It sounds awfully silly to identify G&T through homework, given potential parental assistance!! :?
Yes, I agree. I did help him.

That being said my question is, is there a correlation between G&T and successful GS applicants......in other words does anyone other G&T children get into GS.........even as I write this I know the previous sentence sounds fatuous :oops:
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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

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I'm not sure they correlate. I think the G&T label applied to the top 10% of each school. Given the variation in schools the top 10% in one school could be the same as the bottom 10% in another school. For example my DC was G&T in their non selective school but has now transferred to a grammar school where I would not expect her to be in the top 10%. Therefore someone could be G&T at one school and not another. Does that make sense?

I think I'll have mine with ice and a slice of lime.

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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

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My DD1 was not G&T and is at Grammar school and doing really well. DD2 is G&T but only 8.....so I`ll let you know :wink:
Well she is invited to G&T sessions so I assume she is.....we haven`t had parents evening yet :shock:
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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

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scary mum wrote:I'm not sure they correlate. I think the G&T label applied to the top 10% of each school. Given the variation in schools the top 10% in one school could be the same as the bottom 10% in another school. For example my DC was G&T in their non selective school but has now transferred to a grammar school where I would not expect her to be in the top 10%. :D
At grammar school to be on G&T register does the pupil need to be in top 10% for many/most subjects or can they be G&T at just one subject?
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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

Post by chicko-mum »

It may be different for each school. I don't know if there is a national framework/policy or if each school sets their own, but our local school each department specifies which children are added to the register for their subjects. So a DC could be on the register for Maths, say, but not for any other subject.
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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

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At the primary attended by my boys there was never any mention to parents of G&T. Have since found that all school have this register but our school didn't 'publish' the information. DS1 is a member of NAGTY (although am sure they have changed their name now), identified and put forward by GS in the initial CAT's in Y7 but the primary didn't tell me he was in their top 10%?!?!?!?!

Friend of DS failed the KT and not supported by HT for appeal so the parents didn't apply to a GS. This child had moved to the primary in Y5 and the parents couldn't understand how he failed as was on the G&T register in previous school, which does support that being in the top 10% of a primary means diddly squat really......
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This was very recently debated in another thread: click below -

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Re: Does G&T indicate Grammar School type of student

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I suspect it's not a particularly useful indicator. Top 10% in any given primary school could mean anything when compared to the national picture. Also relies on the primary school being able to accurately identify those who are in their top 10%.
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