Would it be reasonable to ask a High School...

[katel]

...what % of their cohort they expect to start school already working at Level 5? and even if it mis reasonable to ask, do you think they would tell me?

[mitasol]

You should be able to get a very good idea from the performance tables for last year.
http://www.education.gov.uk/cgi-bin/sch ... erview=sec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You need to open the the link to the high school you are interested in and scroll down to the average KS2 points of the pupils. Just below the KS2 points you can locate the percentage of high, middle and low attainers.

If that is still not enough information I'm sure you can ask.

[Belinda]

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[katel]

No- this is two separate things. We're appealing, but not expecting to get anywhere, so preparing for high school life. I am just interested to know what sort of an academic peer group he'll have. Not something I intend to bring up at the appeal!

[Belinda]

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[Caroline1852]

No- this is two separate things. We're appealing, but not expecting to get anywhere, so preparing for high school life. I am just interested to know what sort of an academic peer group he'll have. Not something I intend to bring up at the appeal!

It looks as though some of those secondary modern schools do better by their high achievers than they do by their middle and low achievers. That is quite surprising to me: it seems they fail the students they are supposed to serve but do pretty well by students who were more suited to the grammars. But it's hopefully encouraging for you in the event your appeal is unsuccessful.

I imagine most of the students who do well at GCSE at a secondary modern would move on to one of the grammars for sixth form?

[Amber]

Firstly, not all students and a grammar will have level 5s across the board when they go in. Even where we are, with super selectives, they don't.

Secondly, a fair number of students even at quite poorly achieving schools like the one I work in will have one or more 5s on intake. Go to a slightly 'better' school and there will be many who have 5s...I have several friends whose children did not sit the eleven plus because of ideological or practical objections and who are very clever indeed.

Thirdly, remember that 5s aren't everything, and that not all clever kids get them.

Finally, remember you haven't lost the appeal yet!

[Rob Clark]

katel, DD is at a high school in Bucks (so GS area but not super-selective) and I would say around one-third to one-half of her (top) set in English and maths got level 5s. Not very many got a 5 in science.

Purely anecdotal I know, but may be of some (vague) interest

[Amber]

katel, DD is at a high school in Bucks (so GS area but not super-selective) and I would say around one-third to one-half of her (top) set in English and maths got level 5s. Not very many got a 5 in science.

Purely anecdotal I know, but may be of some (vague) interest

How on earth do you know? Unless the school publishes this stuff...which I have never come across . I have no idea what any other children at my kids' schools got in Year 6 SATs. Perhaps this is the topic of conversation at all those school dinner dances some people go to.

[Rob Clark]

Because I grill every child DD has ever brought through the door (most of them only come to our house once, bizarrely), then hang round at the school gates asking the others. Any DC who looks at me a little weirdly and tries to get away, I mark down as level 4 or below.