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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:14 pm 
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Hello All,

My daughter scored 354 (Maths 119, English 112, Reasoning 123) in Kent 11+ Assessment test.

We are living in Reading (Berkshire) at the moment and looking to relocate to Kent as she was assessed eligible. Please can someone help clarifying on the following. Our preference is to get into girls school

1. What schools we can aim so that we will have a hope to secure a seat?
2. Do we need to be in the catchment before Oct 31?
3. Or apply now and move later say before end of December?
4. Pros and Cons of moving now (before Oct 31) or later (before Dec 31). Meaning do we go to waiting list if we by December.
5. Based on her score your recommendation to concentrate one or few particular grammar schools

Thanks
Jay


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:27 pm 
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Kent is a big county. Will you be working in Kent or commuting to your job?
That will have a big influence on your decision.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:35 pm 
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Kent is a big county. Do you have any idea which part of Kent you are looking at? Do you need to get to London to work? In this part of Kent (West Kent near East Sussex), TWGGS, ToGS and WoK are all grils' schools. Only ToGS takes on score and I don't think your daughter's score is high enough so you would be looking at TWGGS or WoK. To get into TWGGS, to be on the safe side, you need to live within 1.5 miles of the school. I think really though you ought to look at the schools and see which ones you like. To be considered for a place, you need to be living at your new address by early December. Check the exact date with KCC. I do know someone though who moved between 31 October and the cut off in December and her new address was not taken into account so might be wise to double check with KCC that this can still be done.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:38 pm 
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Did she take the kendrick exam as well? Are you waiting for those results on Monday?

Do you need to relocate to Kent for reasons other than a School place?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:14 pm 
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In north Kent your only real option is Mayfield, you’d need to live in and around gravesend to qualify


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:17 pm 
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Sorry and Wilmington if you move to Dartford


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:37 pm 
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This may help :)

https://www.kent.gov.uk/education-and-children/schools/school-places/admissions-criteria/admissions-criteria-201819

Although you may already have read through the admissions policy documents when you visited the KCC site to register your DD for the Kent Test?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:14 pm 
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There are two girls Grammar schools in Dartford. Dartford Girls Grammar and Wilmington Girls Grammar.

Your daughter will definitely get into Wilmington as we know other girls from my kids school with much lower score got accepted in last 3 years. We also attended open day last Wednesday and admission confirmed there are more than enough spaces for girls in Dartford catchment.

Dartford girls is slightly different, but scores around 349-355 are normally the cut off. We know a girl on waiting list last year got in with 354.

On the scaf if you make Dartford first choice, and Wilmington second at worst case your daughter will get Wilmington. If you make Wilmington first choice and Dartford second then there is no chance you get Dartford as spaces will be available for Dartford catchment residents for Wilmington.

You need to look at both admission policy and move to catchment areas listed.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:22 am 
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dragonlord wrote:
There are two girls Grammar schools in Dartford. Dartford Girls Grammar and Wilmington Girls Grammar.

Your daughter will definitely get into Wilmington as we know other girls from my kids school with much lower score got accepted in last 3 years. We also attended open day last Wednesday and admission confirmed there are more than enough spaces for girls in Dartford catchment.

Dartford girls is slightly different, but scores around 349-355 are normally the cut off. We know a girl on waiting list last year got in with 354.

On the scaf if you make Dartford first choice, and Wilmington second at worst case your daughter will get Wilmington. If you make Wilmington first choice and Dartford second then there is no chance you get Dartford as spaces will be available for Dartford catchment residents for Wilmington.

You need to look at both admission policy and move to catchment areas listed.


Wilmington Grammar School for Girls has a published admission number (PAN) of 150. Entry to the
school is through the Kent Assessment Procedure.

Children with a statement of Special Educational Need (SEN) or Education Health and Care Plan (EHCP)
which names Wilmington Grammar School for Girls will be admitted and the PAN reduced accordingly.
The remaining places will be allocated to girls assessed suitable for grammar school through the Kent
procedure. If the number of preferences for the school is more than the number of places available, places
will be allocated to eligible girls in the following priority order:
1. Children in Local Authority Care – a child under the age of 18 years for whom the local authority
provides accommodation by agreement with their parents/carers (Section 22 of the Children Act 1989) or
who ceased to be so because they were adopted or who is the subject of a care order under Part IV of the
Act.
2. Siblings in the school - a sister attending WGSG when the child starts. In this context a sister
means a child who lives in the same house, including natural sisters, adopted siblings, stepsisters or foster
sisters. If siblings from multiple births (twins, triplets, etc) apply for a school and the school would reach
it’s PAN after admitting one or more, but before admitting all of those siblings, governors will offer a place
to each of the siblings, even if doing so takes the school above its PAN.
3. Siblings in Wilmington Grammar School for Boys (WGSB) - a brother attending the school when
the child starts. In this context brother means a child who lives in the same house, including natural
brothers or adopted siblings, stepbrothers or foster brothers. If siblings from multiple births (twins, triplets,
etc) apply for a school and the school would reach it’s PAN after admitting one or more, but before
admitting all of those siblings, governors will offer a place to each of the siblings, even if doing so takes
the school above its PAN.
4. Pupil Premium - Students in receipt of Pupil Premium living within 3 miles proximity of the school:
a child is eligible for Pupil Premium where she has been registered for free school meals (FSM) at any
point in the last 6 years. This does not include children who have only been eligible to receive Universal
Infant Free School Meals. Pupil Premium is also afforded to Children in Local Authority Care or Previously
in Local Authority Care, however these children will be prioritised in the relevant criteria above.
5. 1.5 mile proximity –within this criterion children will be ranked according to the distance from their
home to the Wilmington Grammar School for Girls, with those living closest being ranked highest. The
distance is measured between the child’s permanent address and the school in a straight line using the
National Land and Property Gazetteer (NLPG) address point data. Distances are measured from a point
within the child’s home to a similarly defined point within the school as specified by National Land and
Property Gazetteer (NLPG).
6. Governor Places awarded to girls who have shown exceptional performance in the Mathematics
paper of the Kent test
- Up to 10% of the PAN (15 places) will be awarded to those children who through
the tests have shown an exceptional performance which places them in the top 15 selective places in
Mathematics. In case of tied scores distance will be used. If in the unlikely event that more than one
applicant has the same distance from home to school, as measured by the Local Authority, then an
independently adjudicated random selection will be applied.
7. Eligible girls who live in the named parishes below (see map attached) –
Dartford Stone Swanscome & Greenhithe
Wilmington Darenth Bean
Hextable Sutton at Hone & Hawley Wrotham
Southfleet Swanley Horton Kirby & South Darenth
Longfield & New Barn Crockenhill Farningham
Fawkham Hartley Eynsford
Ash Cum Ridley Shoreham West Kingsdown
Stanstead Otford Kemsing
Halsted Dunton Green Sevenoaks
Children within this priority area will be ranked according to the distance from their home to the
Wilmington Grammar School for Girls with those living closest being ranked highest. The distance is
measured between the child’s permanent address and the school in a straight using the National Land and
Property Gazetteer (NLPG) address point data. Distances are measured from a point defined as within the
child’s home to a point defined as within the school as specified by NLPG. The same address point on the
school site is used for everybody. If in the unlikely event that more than one applicant has the same
distance from home to school, as measured by the Local Authority, then an independently adjudicated
random selection will be applied.
8. All other girls – within this criterion children will be ranked according to the distance from their
home to the Wilmington Grammar School for Girls, with those living closest being ranked highest. The
distance is measured between the child’s permanent address and the school in a straight line using the
National Land and Property Gazetteer (NLPG) address point data. Distances are measured from a point
defined as within the child’s home to a point defined as within the school as specified by NLPG. The same
address point on the school site is used for everybody. If in the unlikely event that more than one
applicant has the same distance from home to school, as measured by the Local Authority, then an
independently adjudicated random selection will be applied.
The school uses measurements provided by the Local Authority and further information on how distances
are calculated including what is regarded as permanent residence and how flats will be treated is available
in the Admissions Booklet provided by the Local Authority.
A waiting list will be maintained up to January 2019 and will be ranked according to the above
oversubscription criteria. The waiting list will be re-ranked every time a child is added.
Applications from parents seeking a place for their child outside of their normal age group will be
considered on the basis of the circumstances of each case and in the best interests of the child concerned.
This will include taking into account parent’s views; information about the child’s academic, social and
emotional development; where relevant, their medical history and the views of the medical professional
and whether they have previously been educated out of their normal age group.


You would have to hope to get moved into a priority area in time, otherwise you will have to hope that a maths score of 119 Is enough to get your DD a Governor place.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:19 pm 
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So where will your daughter go to school during Year 6? And where will you work etc it is a big move to move house just for a school.
Unfortunately for each person who re-locates a local family lose the chance of sending their child to a grammar school. I am very worried that my daughter won't get a place due to people moving into the catchment area.


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