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Mike to Patricia
Hope the subject title is intriguing enough for people to access this link.
Patricia has clear views on the content of NFER VR papers and we are in general agreement. This is a Dear Patricia Letter.
Dear Patricia
I, as an anxious parent (not true), have accessed this site recently. I was interested to see that there are free download papers available from Nelson Thornes called Bond Assessment papers.
I downloaded an 11+ Verbal Reasoning Practice Paper and gave it to my 10 year old son to complete (that's not true). He really struggled with some of the questions, because he said that he had not seen them before.
(for purposes of political correction my son is now my daughter)
Imagine my surprise when she pointed out that the following questions did not appear on the NFER familiarization papers that I had previously given her.
Q. 11-15
Q. 16-20
Q. 21-25
Q. 26-30
Q. 31-36
Q. 42-51
Q 52-56
Q. 57-61
Q. 62-65
Q. 66-70
Q. 71-75
Q. 76-79
Q. 86-90 (NFER are not this difficult)
Q. 91-95
Q. 96-100
That is a total of 75 out of 100 questions that do not (?) appear on standard NFER papers (excluding Bucks).
I think that my son who is now my daughter is very clever to bring this to my attention. What do you think.
Yours tutorially
Mike
The questions were written by Bond around 1988 and were published independently, Nelson Thornes have only recently taken over the publishing rights.
Patricia has clear views on the content of NFER VR papers and we are in general agreement. This is a Dear Patricia Letter.
Dear Patricia
I, as an anxious parent (not true), have accessed this site recently. I was interested to see that there are free download papers available from Nelson Thornes called Bond Assessment papers.
I downloaded an 11+ Verbal Reasoning Practice Paper and gave it to my 10 year old son to complete (that's not true). He really struggled with some of the questions, because he said that he had not seen them before.
(for purposes of political correction my son is now my daughter)
Imagine my surprise when she pointed out that the following questions did not appear on the NFER familiarization papers that I had previously given her.
Q. 11-15
Q. 16-20
Q. 21-25
Q. 26-30
Q. 31-36
Q. 42-51
Q 52-56
Q. 57-61
Q. 62-65
Q. 66-70
Q. 71-75
Q. 76-79
Q. 86-90 (NFER are not this difficult)
Q. 91-95
Q. 96-100
That is a total of 75 out of 100 questions that do not (?) appear on standard NFER papers (excluding Bucks).
I think that my son who is now my daughter is very clever to bring this to my attention. What do you think.
Yours tutorially
Mike
The questions were written by Bond around 1988 and were published independently, Nelson Thornes have only recently taken over the publishing rights.
Maybe its late maybe I am nfer[rd] out, but took me several readings of your letter to 'get it'
Are we on the same wave length that nfer would appear to publish the verbal reasoning tests for most of the country and yet there are so many other publishers around offering VR but they do not seem to mirror the 'real' nfer tests that most of our children are taking?
Comments please!
Are we on the same wave length that nfer would appear to publish the verbal reasoning tests for most of the country and yet there are so many other publishers around offering VR but they do not seem to mirror the 'real' nfer tests that most of our children are taking?
Comments please!
Last edited by patricia on Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:29 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Mike Edwards
Dear Patricia
Just been watching John Peel Night with partners twenty-five year old son, enjoyed Thin Lizzy's Whiskey in a Jar'o.
Yes, we "get it", but how many "amateur parents" do?
With the exception of NFER there isn't another publisher who provides VR papers close to the real thing, either authors live in the past or live in Bucks!!, the exception is ips minus hiknos.
Lost!!
yours intuition
Mike
Just been watching John Peel Night with partners twenty-five year old son, enjoyed Thin Lizzy's Whiskey in a Jar'o.
Yes, we "get it", but how many "amateur parents" do?
With the exception of NFER there isn't another publisher who provides VR papers close to the real thing, either authors live in the past or live in Bucks!!, the exception is ips minus hiknos.
Lost!!
yours intuition
Mike
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paricia
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Mike Edwards
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Mike Edwards
If a poor unsuspecting parent were to spend their hard earned money purchasing something claiming to be 11+ verbal reasoning preparation papers and they find that 75% of the paper purchased does not match what is currently accepted to be the content of present 11+ entrance tests would the purchaser have any complaint under the Trades Description Act?
I am no expert on the rest of the country but you seem to know a lot about the wirral and other areas
I know the bucks system inside out and back to front so what can we do about it?
PLEASE NOTE - this thread between mike and patricia is not our own personal 'chat room' it is open to all
Patricia
I know the bucks system inside out and back to front so what can we do about it?
PLEASE NOTE - this thread between mike and patricia is not our own personal 'chat room' it is open to all
Patricia
Last edited by patricia on Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Hi Mike,
Sorry to hijack this thread (don't how to contact you otherwise!). Yesterday I downloaded The Tutors Verbal Reasoning Paper 3 from this site. The answer sheet (page 10) does not belong to the questions on this paper. Please check it and post a reply. I can mail you (if you would provide the eamil address) the downloaded pdf file if you want.
BTW, I have also posted the same message in another thread as a desparate attempt to get hold of the author Mike who I think wrote those papers.
Regards,
SB
Sorry to hijack this thread (don't how to contact you otherwise!). Yesterday I downloaded The Tutors Verbal Reasoning Paper 3 from this site. The answer sheet (page 10) does not belong to the questions on this paper. Please check it and post a reply. I can mail you (if you would provide the eamil address) the downloaded pdf file if you want.
BTW, I have also posted the same message in another thread as a desparate attempt to get hold of the author Mike who I think wrote those papers.
Regards,
SB
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THE TUTOR VERBAL REASONING PAPER 3
Dear SB and others,
Our apologies, as the software had a glitch. Those who downloaded The Tutors Paper 3 Verbal Reasoning Practice Paper before 27th October should re-download as the original paper was attaching the incorrect answer sheet. This problem has been remedied.
Kind regards,
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Our apologies, as the software had a glitch. Those who downloaded The Tutors Paper 3 Verbal Reasoning Practice Paper before 27th October should re-download as the original paper was attaching the incorrect answer sheet. This problem has been remedied.
Kind regards,
Administrator