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petjam
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Availability of places due to number of kids taking the CSSE

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Will an IC application always take priority over an OOC? Or do the schools always have a percentage which will go to OOC?

i.e. If enough children apply IC there will be no places at all for OOC?

I ask because as we know 50% more children took the exam. Surely that will have a bearing on the number of OOC places?
proud_parent
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petjam wrote:Will an IC application always take priority over an OOC? Or do the schools always have a percentage which will go to OOC?

i.e. If enough children apply IC there will be no places at all for OOC?

I ask because as we know 50% more children took the exam. Surely that will have a bearing on the number of OOC places?
Depends really.

WestCliff Girls had 50% kids from OOC and IC last two years - as per the Headteacher on open day.

As per their admission guide - 75% of seats are filled by IC students (no more than 75%), until they run out of IC students who scored 303 or more. It seems this usually is the case. Then they are left with at least 25% seats which are allocated to OOC students.

It depends these extra 50% students who gave the exam this year are from IC or OOC.

What makes it unclear is that we don't know out of these 50% extra students (this year) how many are girls /boys.
Daddy cool
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Re: Availability of places due to number of kids taking the

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proud_parent wrote:
petjam wrote:Will an IC application always take priority over an OOC? Or do the schools always have a percentage which will go to OOC?

i.e. If enough children apply IC there will be no places at all for OOC?

I ask because as we know 50% more children took the exam. Surely that will have a bearing on the number of OOC places?
Depends really.

WestCliff Girls had 50% kids from OOC and IC last two years - as per the Headteacher on open day.

As per their admission guide - 75% of seats are filled by IC students (no more than 75%), until they run out of IC students who scored 303 or more. It seems this usually is the case. Then they are left with at least 25% seats which are allocated to OOC students.

It depends these extra 50% students who gave the exam this year are from IC or OOC.

What makes it unclear is that we don't know out of these 50% extra students (this year) how many are girls /boys.
Hi Proud_Parent I'm curious to know if your suggesting there were 50% more children sitting the CSSE exam compared with last year, or am I perhaps getting that wrong? I recently posted a figure of over 6000, a figure I was advised of prior to the exam. However, having followed this up post-exam it appears approx. 500 did not attend. Regards
proud_parent
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Daddy cool wrote:
proud_parent wrote:
petjam wrote:Will an IC application always take priority over an OOC? Or do the schools always have a percentage which will go to OOC?

i.e. If enough children apply IC there will be no places at all for OOC?

I ask because as we know 50% more children took the exam. Surely that will have a bearing on the number of OOC places?
Depends really.

WestCliff Girls had 50% kids from OOC and IC last two years - as per the Headteacher on open day.

As per their admission guide - 75% of seats are filled by IC students (no more than 75%), until they run out of IC students who scored 303 or more. It seems this usually is the case. Then they are left with at least 25% seats which are allocated to OOC students.

It depends these extra 50% students who gave the exam this year are from IC or OOC.

What makes it unclear is that we don't know out of these 50% extra students (this year) how many are girls /boys.
Hi Proud_Parent I'm curious to know if your suggesting there were 50% more children sitting the CSSE exam compared with last year, or am I perhaps getting that wrong? I recently posted a figure of over 6000, a figure I was advised of prior to the exam. However, having followed this up post-exam it appears approx. 500 did not attend. Regards
Yes, I saw your post about 6000 this year, compared to 4100 last year.

If 500 didn't appear, it is less than 50%.

Do you know how many didn't appear last year when 4100 had registered.
Daddy cool
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Re: Availability of places due to number of kids taking the

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Hi Proud_Parent, sorry for misinforming you. Realising my blunder in providing incorrect figures I have re-checked them. They are as follows: in 2016 approx. 4900 sat the CSSE exam. In 2017 5380 sat the exam, and approx. 6000 registered prior. Thus there was a significant number who did not attend. Regards.
Idoknow
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Petjam,

Yes, generally Southend boys' schools allocate 5/6 of its places to IC boys first but (as it happened last year), there was not enough of them with a minimum score of 303, so those places 'spilled' into OOC allocation and there were more than enough OOC applicants. This was the case with both Southend schools for boys.
petjam
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Re: Availability of places due to number of kids taking the

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Daddy cool wrote:Hi Proud_Parent, sorry for misinforming you. Realising my blunder in providing incorrect figures I have re-checked them. They are as follows: in 2016 approx. 4900 sat the CSSE exam. In 2017 5380 sat the exam, and approx. 6000 registered prior. Thus there was a significant number who did not attend. Regards.
Where is the source of this information?
Daddy cool
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petjam wrote:
Daddy cool wrote:Hi Proud_Parent, sorry for misinforming you. Realising my blunder in providing incorrect figures I have re-checked them. They are as follows: in 2016 approx. 4900 sat the CSSE exam. In 2017 5380 sat the exam, and approx. 6000 registered prior. Thus there was a significant number who did not attend. Regards.
Where is the source of this information?
Give CSSE a call...
petjam
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Re: Availability of places due to number of kids taking the

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Daddy cool wrote:
petjam wrote:
Daddy cool wrote:Hi Proud_Parent, sorry for misinforming you. Realising my blunder in providing incorrect figures I have re-checked them. They are as follows: in 2016 approx. 4900 sat the CSSE exam. In 2017 5380 sat the exam, and approx. 6000 registered prior. Thus there was a significant number who did not attend. Regards.
Where is the source of this information?
Give CSSE a call...
That's good to know. I didn't think they would have given you that information.

So not that much up on last year. That puts my mind to rest a bit.
Chocoholic83
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Re: Availability of places due to number of kids taking the

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Would CSSE tell you the proportion of boys to girls?
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