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mitasol
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Post by mitasol »

Yes they standardise. I had understood the effect would be consistent regardless of age. September born are not penalised simply because they are the oldest. It is based on how September born performed as a subset of the total cohort.

See the following analysis.
WP wrote:Oooh, data! Thanks, NorthLincs.

Based on this spreadsheet, here are the pass rates for candidates in 2006, 2007 and 2008, by birth month (excluding those outside the normal age range):

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born | 2006  2007  2008
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Sep  |  43%   45%   41%
Oct  |  46%   44%   45%
Nov  |  43%   44%   40%
Dec  |  44%   39%   44%
Jan  |  43%   43%   41%
Feb  |  48%   48%   43%
Mar  |  46%   42%   42%
Apr  |  44%   41%   47%
May  |  42%   45%   49%
Jun  |  39%   40%   44%
Jul  |  40%   46%   39%
Aug  |  44%   40%   41%
I don't see any obvious bias there.
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helhan68
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Post by helhan68 »

That makes sense Mitasol-my threes' birthdays are June and 2 in August-so the standardizing will not necessarily work in our favour if other August born children do as well or better (For DD 2 & 3)

As you know DD#1 is in-and would like to think that she hasn't benefited hugely from standardizing, as I want her to manage and enjoy her time there (she came 139th)

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Haze
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Post by Haze »

Perhaps the best view is that standardisation makes the playing field level and doesn't benefit anyone. :?
mitasol
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Post by mitasol »

Haze wrote:Perhaps the best view is that standardisation makes the playing field level and doesn't benefit anyone
Yes, that's the theory.

I know it is very complex maths but if I am thinking of it in very simple terms a September child is being compared against other September children and so on for each month.

Queensburyhopeful. - I do think that children just above the cut off and children just below the cut off are probably interchangeable in ability. Another day or a different test could see a reordered ranking. So the cut off is going to slice through children of very similar ability, which is going to feel very unfair, if you end up on the wrong side of the line.
camster25
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Post by camster25 »

just a quick one to say my son get his 1st choice school and will be going the NHGS in September.
shahreen
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Post by shahreen »

thats gr8 to hear campster, nhgs is gr8 choice
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