Exclusion
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Exclusion
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My 9 year son recently returned from a school residential trip. An incident occured which resulted ina group of boys including mine had a fight with some boys from another school. On their return the parents of the boys were informed that they would be excluded from school for one day because of their behaviour.
My concern is that we as parents were not warned that this could happen. If i had been told then i would have gone and collected my child and he would have missed the rest of the trip instead of having an exclusion on his school record.
I am all for punishing this type of behaviour but i can't help but think that this was not normal circumstances, being their first trip away from home etc. Had the incident happened at school then it would have been a warning followed by possible exclusion and although my son may have been warned we as parents were not aware of any issues.
Any thoughts would be greatly received.
My 9 year son recently returned from a school residential trip. An incident occured which resulted ina group of boys including mine had a fight with some boys from another school. On their return the parents of the boys were informed that they would be excluded from school for one day because of their behaviour.
My concern is that we as parents were not warned that this could happen. If i had been told then i would have gone and collected my child and he would have missed the rest of the trip instead of having an exclusion on his school record.
I am all for punishing this type of behaviour but i can't help but think that this was not normal circumstances, being their first trip away from home etc. Had the incident happened at school then it would have been a warning followed by possible exclusion and although my son may have been warned we as parents were not aware of any issues.
Any thoughts would be greatly received.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I think the school was right to exclude, and I think it was a good thing that you did not have the option of taking your son home and avoiding an exclusion. I would not worry about a one day exclusion on your son's record. It is usually schools, not parents, that worry about exclusion records. I would worry if the behaviour recurs, but hopefully not if he was as upset by the exclusion as you were. This is the reason for the exclusion.
I think I have not fully understood your post, but it seems to suggest you knew that your son was going to be in a fight and if you had known he was going to be excluded you would have collected him before it happened? Otherwise, how would collecting him from the trip have saved him an exclusion?
I am sure that the school rules, and common sense, would indicate that something like fighting could result in an exclusion. So I don't think anyone would accept an argument " I wasn't warned, so that wasn't fair".
Also, I don't think that this kind of excuse would help your son understand why his behaviour was wrong, and that a punishment was merited.
I think I have not fully understood your post, but it seems to suggest you knew that your son was going to be in a fight and if you had known he was going to be excluded you would have collected him before it happened? Otherwise, how would collecting him from the trip have saved him an exclusion?
I am sure that the school rules, and common sense, would indicate that something like fighting could result in an exclusion. So I don't think anyone would accept an argument " I wasn't warned, so that wasn't fair".
Also, I don't think that this kind of excuse would help your son understand why his behaviour was wrong, and that a punishment was merited.
Thanks for your replies.
I am fully in support of exclusion for fighting. But as mentioned how was it allowed to escalate to such a degree? It happened a a disco full of kids and supposed supervision. i think there had been a lot of name calling in the lead up and then it all just got out of hand.
We have a meeting regarding the incident on Tuesday when we will be asking what action was takento stop the problem arising.
Incidently the other boys were yr 7s my son is yr 5.
I am fully in support of exclusion for fighting. But as mentioned how was it allowed to escalate to such a degree? It happened a a disco full of kids and supposed supervision. i think there had been a lot of name calling in the lead up and then it all just got out of hand.
We have a meeting regarding the incident on Tuesday when we will be asking what action was takento stop the problem arising.
Incidently the other boys were yr 7s my son is yr 5.
Yes, I agree it could read that way (that Mum (and son) are more concerned about about the exclusion and its fairness than about fighting).
We don't know the full story, so this may not be the case. But if I was this mother, I would be concerned, and be checking out other websites on behaviour management. I do not think the little boy's thoughts about whether the others are being treated the same way as him are the way forward either.
I think Mum needs to think about what she is going to do at home to reinforce what the school does if anything like this ever happens again, and she should never seem questioning of the school or the fairness of it. The message seems to have got lost that fighting is wrong, you do not have to take part in it.
We don't know the full story, so this may not be the case. But if I was this mother, I would be concerned, and be checking out other websites on behaviour management. I do not think the little boy's thoughts about whether the others are being treated the same way as him are the way forward either.
I think Mum needs to think about what she is going to do at home to reinforce what the school does if anything like this ever happens again, and she should never seem questioning of the school or the fairness of it. The message seems to have got lost that fighting is wrong, you do not have to take part in it.